No hope of me ever getting there, but when I got my Volvo 850 I searched the net for info, and there are lot of Youtube videos of them on the Nurburgring. One of the best was an onboard in a 460hp Evo - the guys wearing helmets, roll cage, full harness belts, the works. They are giving the Evo a good workout...and then a Volvo 850 goes past them. They try to keep up with the Volvo when it gets out of shape in a corner, they are laughing about that, and then another Volvo 850 goes past them ! There are wannabes, and then there are serious drivers like Sabine going very fast in boring cars.