I have access to Kawasaki FD rated if you would like to try it.
Any interest in 2 Stroke VOA?
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You are suggesting what may be one of the most valuable VOA's of anything put on BITOG in years. There's enough Spec's on 4T oils so they are all "good" given the right starbursts, European approvals and the like. 2T is more like the wild west. I think we will learn something important with 2T VOA's. Otherwise, we learn what oils are great / good / meh by cleaning the carbon out of our chain saws.
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Would you consider the oil from the actual hardware manufacturers? Echo, Husqvarna, Stihl, Homelite, Briggs and Stratton among others all market their own brand, even though most of them are likely rebadged versions of what you've already listed.
It's a bit of a financial burden to submit so many VOAs, but it would be very interesting to see what the differences are since so many equipment manufacturers like to insist that their oil, of course, is the best choice.
It's a bit of a financial burden to submit so many VOAs, but it would be very interesting to see what the differences are since so many equipment manufacturers like to insist that their oil, of course, is the best choice.
I'll try to send sample for testing of:
Motul 510 2T FD
Motul 710 2T FD
Castrol GO! 2T FB
Motul 510 2T FD
Motul 710 2T FD
Castrol GO! 2T FB
The Red Armor is just that; it's an Echo product.
Thanks. My thought is to do the basic standards to see what the data looks like. We can always do more as Yamalube interests me too.
I broke them into categories as follows to get a baseline without sending 30 samples at once as we have no idea what we will really get back. My original plan was (2) samples of each category which didn't include marine from the get go. Then as I'm in the aisle of Walmart, the marine oil told me it wanted to play too.
Standard 2 stroke oil:
Red Armor
Super Tech
VP Racing
High Performance Racing:
Dumonde
Amsoil
Marine Baseline:
Super Tech
Where should 2 Stroke VOA results be posted? Almost seems like a new subsection would be ideal. Mods?
I guess just open a thread for each oil sample in Virgin Oil Analysis - PCMO/HDEO and make sure you 2-stroke/2T in the thread title.
Why would we need a new subsection just for several oil samples?
I was just trying to be proactive and maybe help save the mods like @Astro14 a bit of work, that’s all. While the PCMO/HDEO section is the most logical fit for now, it’s clear that two-stroke oil doesn’t really belong under Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) or Heavy Duty Engine Oil (HDEO).
Thanks - I appreciate it. We’ve discussed adding more sub-fora - but the challenge is that we have so many already. I don’t think that a 2 stroke VOA section would have enough content to warrant a new sub-forum. I leave this decision to @wwillson
I concur. Please post in the Motor Cycle and Powersports forum: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/forums/used-oil-analysis-motorcycle-and-powersports.49/
You'd really need to get a nitration and oxidation test on them, the difference will be in the base oils used. The synthetic components being PIB and Esters. the PIB might contain nitrogen to make it polar
Yes, I already have that.
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Since we will be posting 2-cycle VOAs in the above forum in the thread 2-Cycle Oils VOA Analysis, we will close this thread.
They ship out tomorrow!
Here, there are plenty of 2-stroke candles to breathe in while relaxing at home with a drink.
https://www.google.com/search?q=2-s...CCLACAfEFW4ZMzOJj1zo&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
May we keep it as a general 2-stroke discussion and 2-stroke jokes?
Before I retired, SWRI contacted us (Desert Research Institute) to see if we, in this case, me, could run wear metals in diesel exhaust. It had never been done before. The sampling and analytical techniques were well established. They had never been combined for that purpose before.I would like...cough-cough...two-stroke oil UOA please
They wanted to see the effect of age on diesel emissions. They sampled low and high hour examples of light, medium, and heavy duty diesels. One sample stood out, with an order of magnitude higher metals in its exhaust. I asked if it was a very tired example. Nope, a low hour medium duty running biodiesel. That was one of unexpected things you find when doing science. Further exploration was not part of the study and I don't know if there was any follow-up. It could have been the solvency of the biodiesel cleaning piston deposits(likely) or it somehow effected the piston ring seal.
Anyway, I can set you up. Expect a five figure bill. SWRI and DRI don't work cheap.
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