What is your opinion about leaving the factory fill in until the MM says so?
Any Honda techs out there
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At least change the filter early. I did a complete change early on mine.
Plus one on the filter.I've read here that Honda FF is Mobil conventional.Dont know how true it is.If its anything other than some superduper-moly blend-high-zinc-stuff .I'd change it out.Probably at 2k. If you're past that,It really won't matter.
Originally Posted By: BigBuck
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
With newer cars and oil, the first oil change can certainly be safely extended.
Honda is known for high additives in their initial fills.
No need for 500 mile oil changes, and may even be detrimental.
Maybe knock off 1-1,500k from their first recommendation, if anything.
Honda is known for high additives in their initial fills.
No need for 500 mile oil changes, and may even be detrimental.
Maybe knock off 1-1,500k from their first recommendation, if anything.
Just change it when the MM tells you to. That's why it's there. Honda built it's reputation on their engines. Heck, even the Indy 500 trusts them.
Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Not with automatic transmissions ,he ,he ,he
I went ahead and fixed that for you.
thanks ,after all, you know what I meant.
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Not with automatic transmissions ,he ,he ,he
I went ahead and fixed that for you.
thanks ,after all, you know what I meant.
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Plus one on the filter.
why?
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
I've read here that Honda FF is Mobil conventional.Dont know how true it is.
it's not...
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Originally Posted By: BigBuck
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
um, yeah...the CRV is certainly know for its problematic transmissions.
oh....wait....
Any other misinformation you'd like to spread while you're at it?
Plus one on the filter.
why?
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
I've read here that Honda FF is Mobil conventional.Dont know how true it is.
it's not...
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Originally Posted By: BigBuck
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
um, yeah...the CRV is certainly know for its problematic transmissions.
oh....wait....
Any other misinformation you'd like to spread while you're at it?
id change it around 30-20 percent oil life. but thats just me.
They have a new recall for software updates for the trans in the CRV's, so must be having some issues. Something about weak bearing so they must be doing some tourque management when it shifts.
http://enewsposts.com/08/recall-honda-crv/
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Explaining the recall, the company said the automatic transmission secondary shaft bearing in the affected vehicles can be damaged easily without the software being updated. The damaged bearing can cause the engine to stall or lead to difficulty engaging the parking gear, Honda added. No injuries or deaths have been reported related to this condition."
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Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Plus one on the filter.
why?
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
I've read here that Honda FF is Mobil conventional.Dont know how true it is.
it's not...
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Originally Posted By: BigBuck
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
um, yeah...the CRV is certainly know for its problematic transmissions.
oh....wait....
Any other misinformation you'd like to spread while you're at it?
Th
http://enewsposts.com/08/recall-honda-crv/
"
Explaining the recall, the company said the automatic transmission secondary shaft bearing in the affected vehicles can be damaged easily without the software being updated. The damaged bearing can cause the engine to stall or lead to difficulty engaging the parking gear, Honda added. No injuries or deaths have been reported related to this condition."
Originally Posted By: JOD
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Plus one on the filter.
why?
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
I've read here that Honda FF is Mobil conventional.Dont know how true it is.
it's not...
Originally Posted By: FL_Rob
Originally Posted By: BigBuck
Leave it til the MM tells you to change it. Listen to Honda, they know what they are doing.
Not with transmissions ,he ,he ,he
um, yeah...the CRV is certainly know for its problematic transmissions.
oh....wait....
Any other misinformation you'd like to spread while you're at it?
Th
Originally Posted By: VNTS
They have a new recall for software updates for the trans in the CRV's, so must be having some issues. Something about weak bearing so they must be doing some tourque management when it shifts.
That's not the issue with that recall. The issue is if the user shifts back and forth between reverse and drive quickly and repeately, a bearing can wear. Note, this isn't something that most will even encounter.
The fix is softening the engagement into and out of drive and reverse as I understand it. It's not related to normal transmission operation at all.
It will take years before Honda's automatic transmission problems from almost a decade ago are finally forgotten, or at least recognized as affecting only certain units (3-shaft V-6 transmissions). Every auto maker has produced notoriously weak automatic transmissions in the past. Honda is just the one who has done so most recently. It doesn't help when folks take an oil thread off-topic by tossing transmissions into it, but that's human nature sometimes.
They have a new recall for software updates for the trans in the CRV's, so must be having some issues. Something about weak bearing so they must be doing some tourque management when it shifts.
That's not the issue with that recall. The issue is if the user shifts back and forth between reverse and drive quickly and repeately, a bearing can wear. Note, this isn't something that most will even encounter.
The fix is softening the engagement into and out of drive and reverse as I understand it. It's not related to normal transmission operation at all.
It will take years before Honda's automatic transmission problems from almost a decade ago are finally forgotten, or at least recognized as affecting only certain units (3-shaft V-6 transmissions). Every auto maker has produced notoriously weak automatic transmissions in the past. Honda is just the one who has done so most recently. It doesn't help when folks take an oil thread off-topic by tossing transmissions into it, but that's human nature sometimes.
Touch a nerve LOL
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it. You dont do software updates unless you have a problem, especially 1.5 million units.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: VNTS
They have a new recall for software updates for the trans in the CRV's, so must be having some issues. Something about weak bearing so they must be doing some tourque management when it shifts.
That's not the issue with that recall. The issue is if the user shifts back and forth between reverse and drive quickly and repeately, a bearing can wear. Note, this isn't something that most will even encounter.
The fix is softening the engagement into and out of drive and reverse as I understand it. It's not related to normal transmission operation at all.
It will take years before Honda's automatic transmission problems from almost a decade ago are finally forgotten, or at least recognized as affecting only certain units (3-shaft V-6 transmissions). Every auto maker has produced notoriously weak automatic transmissions in the past. Honda is just the one who has done so most recently. It doesn't help when folks take an oil thread off-topic by tossing transmissions into it, but that's human nature sometimes.
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it. You dont do software updates unless you have a problem, especially 1.5 million units.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: VNTS
They have a new recall for software updates for the trans in the CRV's, so must be having some issues. Something about weak bearing so they must be doing some tourque management when it shifts.
That's not the issue with that recall. The issue is if the user shifts back and forth between reverse and drive quickly and repeately, a bearing can wear. Note, this isn't something that most will even encounter.
The fix is softening the engagement into and out of drive and reverse as I understand it. It's not related to normal transmission operation at all.
It will take years before Honda's automatic transmission problems from almost a decade ago are finally forgotten, or at least recognized as affecting only certain units (3-shaft V-6 transmissions). Every auto maker has produced notoriously weak automatic transmissions in the past. Honda is just the one who has done so most recently. It doesn't help when folks take an oil thread off-topic by tossing transmissions into it, but that's human nature sometimes.
Wow! I didn't realize there were so many Honda techs onboard BITOG. This is great!
Originally Posted By: VNTS
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it.
They really don't though. They had a string of bad luck from about 2001-2007 where a few of their models, most notable the Accord, CL, and TL, had major automatic transmission flaws, but their manual transmissions have always been bulletproof and some of the best made. Only recently did an issue arise with the early model Civic Si, 2007-2008, manual transmission and that was simply a synchro quality control. Certainly not a bad transmission design. Look at the S2000 for example. Many driving enthusiasts, even those loyal to GM, Porsche, Audi, etc., consider it to have one of the best transmissions ever made bar none.
As Hokey mentioned right before your post, yes we are aware that over the last decade Honda has had a string of bad luck with their automatic transmissions. It will take awhile before the bad taste leaves the mouths of consumers. But to flat out say Honda makes [censored] transmissions as a general statement is ignorant at best.
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it.
They really don't though. They had a string of bad luck from about 2001-2007 where a few of their models, most notable the Accord, CL, and TL, had major automatic transmission flaws, but their manual transmissions have always been bulletproof and some of the best made. Only recently did an issue arise with the early model Civic Si, 2007-2008, manual transmission and that was simply a synchro quality control. Certainly not a bad transmission design. Look at the S2000 for example. Many driving enthusiasts, even those loyal to GM, Porsche, Audi, etc., consider it to have one of the best transmissions ever made bar none.
As Hokey mentioned right before your post, yes we are aware that over the last decade Honda has had a string of bad luck with their automatic transmissions. It will take awhile before the bad taste leaves the mouths of consumers. But to flat out say Honda makes [censored] transmissions as a general statement is ignorant at best.
Although I fully trust Honda but for the first change I would dump it early. Its just cheap Dino anyway. Just for piece of mind you could do a change for a few dollars.
I changed my FF at 5,000 KMs or so. 1.8L Civic.
Originally Posted By: VNTS
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it. You dont do software updates unless you have a problem, especially 1.5 million units.
You're not separating transmissions from programming, and they're very separate.
GM had a software update to reduce spark knock on the Equinox's 4-cylinder engine. It doesn't mean the engine is junk. To the contrary, it's a very good engine. It simply means they were either too aggressive with software or something was overlooked in the software. Human beings make mistakes, no matter where they work.
Honda's manual transmissions are very good, but it's not even that all of their automatics are bad. The 2/3-shaft V-6 transmissions fail earlier than expected. They do. It's probably best to avoid them when buying used. That said, the 4-shaft V-6 ones are much better, and generally have a good track record. The 4-cylinder transmissions also have a good track record. Saying "all Honda transmissions" are bad because of a certain design is more prone to failure than others is like saying all Ford transmissions are bad because the AX4S is a weak unit, or like saying all Chrysler transmissions are bad because the 41TE used to be really bad. Ford and Chrysler have excellent automatic transmissions today. Your gross generalization is simply not accurate.
Edit: maybe our definitions of "junky" (substituted for your censored word) are simply different. If you define "junky" as "not perfect", then I'd agree. Honda transmissions are junky. Everything, therefore, is "junky" because everything, as you know, is "not perfect".
Honda makes [censored] transmissions and everyone knows it. You dont do software updates unless you have a problem, especially 1.5 million units.
You're not separating transmissions from programming, and they're very separate.
GM had a software update to reduce spark knock on the Equinox's 4-cylinder engine. It doesn't mean the engine is junk. To the contrary, it's a very good engine. It simply means they were either too aggressive with software or something was overlooked in the software. Human beings make mistakes, no matter where they work.
Honda's manual transmissions are very good, but it's not even that all of their automatics are bad. The 2/3-shaft V-6 transmissions fail earlier than expected. They do. It's probably best to avoid them when buying used. That said, the 4-shaft V-6 ones are much better, and generally have a good track record. The 4-cylinder transmissions also have a good track record. Saying "all Honda transmissions" are bad because of a certain design is more prone to failure than others is like saying all Ford transmissions are bad because the AX4S is a weak unit, or like saying all Chrysler transmissions are bad because the 41TE used to be really bad. Ford and Chrysler have excellent automatic transmissions today. Your gross generalization is simply not accurate.
Edit: maybe our definitions of "junky" (substituted for your censored word) are simply different. If you define "junky" as "not perfect", then I'd agree. Honda transmissions are junky. Everything, therefore, is "junky" because everything, as you know, is "not perfect".
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^I agree with hokiefyd.
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