It is GTL-based (50–60%) now. It used to have only 10–20% PAO and 20–30% GTL. Note that around 15–20% is reserved for the add pack and VII.
Which nonboutique oil uses PAO these days?
Any 0w30 users here?
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Which nonboutique oil uses PAO these days?
Ravenol ?
Some people can probably tell the blender for Mopar MaxPro+ 0W-30 from the bottle packaging. It is probably Warren Oil Company. There is nothing special about it. Any ILSAC GF-6 0W-30 will perform similarly or better.
https://www.warrenoil.com/
https://www.warrenoil.com/
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I’ll hold out on The Who makes MOPAR Max Pro oil BUT the stuff we get at work sure looks like SHELL containers. The bottles look nothing like the 3 images above also.Some people can probably tell the blender for Mopar MaxPro+ 0W-30 from the bottle packaging. It is probably Warren Oil Company. There is nothing special about it. Any ILSAC GF-6 0W-30 will perform similarly or better.
https://www.warrenoil.com/
Of course. However I prefer Supertech 5w30 + filter setup for the same price.M1 0w30 same price as regular M1 5w30
Are they API SP/ILSAC GF-6 like the bottles I posted?
I wanted to try some in our FJ bit couldn't find any in stock locally at a price I was willing to pay.
Yup
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Wind chill means nothing to your car once it cools down to ambient air temp. -48C (-54f) is crazy dangerous cold , was your car cranking over noticeably slower?
i did not start it during these temperatures, i waited for the weather to become less cold. the next day it was ok. at -36 celcius it will start but it is around that temperature i notice my car cranking slower. -30 celcius and over it start easily. i live in the subartic climate zone. even at -36 celcius my car will start no fuss with 0w30 oil. it will crank slowly, but it will start. i am retired. during winter i try to do a small trip every day to keep the car ok. like 30 to 40km.
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Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W-30 in my Saturn…
Mobil 1 ESP in 0W-30 has run great in the past…
Mobil 1 ESP in 0W-30 has run great in the past…
Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX for my Honda CRV with the 2.4 L Earth dreams engine. Ever since I switched to this away from the 0W20, I have less oil loss during winter months.
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The previous 0W-20 AFE formula had closer to 30% PAO and a -51C pour point. I realize this doesn't really matter that much but they still aren't cutting the price either. And not sure the rest is GTL, I'm thinking more Group II+/III hydrocracked replacement for VISOM...
IDK the percentages of PAO in Mobil's formulations but the "vanilla" 5W-20 has a PP of -51C...
I may consider M1 0w30 AFE for next oil change before cold winter. I'm liking the 11.5cST @100c compared to EP HM 5w30
I have M1 AFE 0w-30 in my Santa Fe.
I have no need for a 0w oil, but was free on Walmart pricing error, so why not.
It is not an oil I have a need to go looking for though.
I have no need for a 0w oil, but was free on Walmart pricing error, so why not.
It is not an oil I have a need to go looking for though.
We are talking about M1 AFE 0W-30, not M1 AFE 0W-20. M1 AFE 0W-30 had 10–20% PAO and 20–30% GTL if you look at Gokhan's HTFS viscosity & VII content table.
The current M1 5W-20 has no PAO and 30–40% GTL; so, it has a lower-quality base oil than M1 AFE 0W-30's.
You shouldn't rely on any data published on Mobil 1 datasheets. They are often wrong. The MRV test for SAE 0W is run at −40 ℃. Therefore, a pour point of −42 ℃ for a SAE 0W oil is more than likely an erroneous publication. It is possibly meant to be −52 ℃. Likewise, the pour point for M1 5W-20 is more than likely meant to be −41 ℃, as the MRV test for SAE 5W is run at −35 ℃. You may not have a SAE 5W oil with a very low pour point because if it passes both the MRV and CCS tests for SAE 0W, it would have to be classified as a SAE 0W, not as a SAE 5W, according to the rules of SAE J300.
See the second from last page of the Infineum API oil brochure for a summary of SAE J300.
https://www.infineuminsight.com/en-gb/resources/brochures/api-engine-oil-classifications-brochure/
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Mobil 1 0W30 ESP in the 2021 Mercedes GLC300. Finally becoming more available. Remaining on spec and still under warranty. Apparently, it's a bit "special!" Consequently, my usual M1 0W40 does NOT meet spec.
My friend's used bmw "limo" doesn't have a dipper. He goes into a menu on the head unit display and it reads out oil level and condition.
Of course, a well dressed man does not want soot or grease on his French cuff,
plus just opening the hood is a vulgar action in many circles, as it signals a "personal failure".
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