No I am not trying to twist. I asked you when did standards changed. Laws and standards are two different things! Summer tire with M+S is not a summer tire. It is tire that has to be made in a such a way, that negatively influences summer performance.Thread was about Germany (EU). Why many M+S are sold as a summer tire. So i explained that to him why? so why is that so hard to believe? Now you trying to twist this to even worse. Like i said, your welcome to try your opinion
You can think of them as space travel capable if you want, but they are not summer tire.