An eleven year old boy.

[Mystic]

I was able to watch a little bit of the FOX News at work today. They had a story about an eleven year old Palestinian boy who approached an Israeli checkpoint with a bomb weighing about twenty pounds. Then a terrorist used a cell phone to try to detonate the bomb but it failed to go off.

After the boy was questioned it was determined that terrorists gave the boy some money (equal to about a dollar and some change) to take to the Israelis what they told the boy was car parts. But actually it was a twenty pound bomb. The boy did not volunteer to be a martyr and what real human being would have an eleven year old child blow himself up to kill enemies? Probably if the bomb would have exploded successfully the terrorists later would have claimed that the boy had volunteered.

A woman Israeli soldier talked to the boy and she realized that the box did not contain car parts when she saw some wiring. She and the boy and others probably would have died but when the signal was sent by the cell phone the bomb failed to detonate because of some defect.

People who would do things like this using a mere child have no human values. It is bad enough to murder innocent people in terrorist attacks using men and women who volunteer to do such things, but this was an eleven year old child and that child did not volunteer-he was tricked. I have zero respect for anybody who would use a child in this manner. No cause is worth this type of behavior. I will stop now before I tell you what I really think of the people who did this.

 

[Pablo]

I saw NBC's coverage of the same thing.

Sick by our standards. How desperate are these people? Apparently not desperate enough to use their brains.

May we live in interesting times.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

The Pali's are little more than a sick, sick death cult and this story illustrates this fact beautifully. All of you bleeding hearts getting ready to blather on about how these poor people are oppressed by a military occupation, should please include another example of an oppressed society that takes so much pleasure in spilling innocent blood. Homocide bombing has taken mankind to new lows. If these animals were my neighbors, I'd build one hel* of a big fence too.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

Calling these people animals is an insult to animals.

 

[Drew99GT]

The Palestinians historically lived in modern day "Isreal", but mostly in western Jordan. Palestine, as the historical homeland of the Palestinians, encompases more of Jordan, then it ever did of modern day Isreal. These people have been rid of their true homeland more by Arabs than they ever have been by the Jews.

Also, they are all essentially "semetic" peoples, originating from the same blood lines, aren't they? I just do not get it!

 

[keith]

[liberal]
But don't you understand, it is the fault of the evil US and those filthy Jews. Yasser Arafat is an admirable leader, who by the way, won the Nobel Peace Prize which proves my point.
[/liberal]


Meanwhile, in the real world, we can all be sickened by Yasser Arafat and his goons and hope for them a swift elimination from the gene pool.

No peace in that region until the hero of the left, Arafat, is gone.

Keith.

 

[Not the Autorx Frank]

We should unchain Isreal to mow em down. They have no reedeeming values whatsover. And for the ones who say they aren't terrorists, you are as much to blame for standing by.

man this pisses me off

 

[cryptokid]

how typical of most westerners to jump on somthing like this when you just do not know the whole story. what if the boy was not just some nice kid? maybe they were trying to get rid of him (and also kill a few allies in the process) because he killed a whole bunch of people? there might be a REASON this kid was used. he might be sicker than the people who sent him.

 

[Mystic]

I heard a little bit more about this story later on the FOX News. Apparently the terrorists told the boy to deliver the 'car parts' to a woman on the other side of the Israeli checkpoint. But the plan was apparently to explode the bomb at the checkpoint and kill as many Israeli soldiers as possible. This does not materially change what I said above. The signal from the cell phone was sent to the bomb while the boy was at the checkpoint. The boy would have died along with some Israeli soldiers. The boy to the terrorists was worth nothing.

I bring all of this up because I do not want for the super-liberals at this site to be able to try to attack what I have posted. All of the information I have posted here is factual as far as I know.

But it may not matter. People who can try to find justification for murdering a man in a wheelchair probably will find some way to justify the murder of an eleven year old Palestinian boy.

I am an old man and I plan on keeping my core values, even if they are considered old fashioned.

 

[Shannow]

That's a despicable, and pathetic act sending a kid to get blown up. Full stop.

(People calling for genocide for the acts of a despicable few are also pathetic)

 

[needtoknow]

I get a little tired of accusations about how "liberals" support this kind of act and somehow we are to blame. Here's a liberal viewpoint. The Palastinians are in the position they're in because it suits Arab hatred for the existance of Israel. Yasser Arafat is an incompetent leader who along with rest of the leadership steal from the Palastinians, yet they support him. The Palastinians live in one of the most densely populated pieces of real estate on the planet with no resources and little help from Arab neighbors because it suits their purpose to keep these people poor and desperate. Desperate people full of hate with little power will always do despicable acts. To call for the annihilation of thousands of people puts you at their same level.

[ March 17, 2004, 09:02 AM: Message edited by: needtoknow ]

 

[Pablo]

dang it, I agree pretty much with "needto know".....

The first "Arab" nation that steps forward to actually help Palestine can maybe count on being quite a hero, get big cash bonuses, be redeemed, etc....but it's just not on their plate.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

quote:

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Originally posted by Shannow:
That's a despicable, and pathetic act sending a kid to get blown up. Full stop.

(People calling for genocide for the acts of a despicable few are also pathetic)

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Shannow, if you want to cluck about genocide, look straight at the Pali's (and the rest of the Islamofacsists), because they practice it and shamelessly preach it. Their societies also overwhelmingly endorse it. Its not just a "despicable few", this sickness has permeated the whole society and it has been building for centuries.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

quote:

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Originally posted by cryptokid:
how typical of most westerners to jump on somthing like this when you just do not know the whole story. what if the boy was not just some nice kid? maybe they were trying to get rid of him (and also kill a few allies in the process) because he killed a whole bunch of people? there might be a REASON this kid was used. he might be sicker than the people who sent him.

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How typical of some Westerners to assume that evil doesn't really exist and that there must be a logical explanation for it. Sorry crypto, but your post is truly laughable. The frickin kid was 11!

 

[JohnnyO]

As I recently posted elsewhere here, to his credit Bill Clinton had worked a deal that got the Palestinians about 90% of the land they wanted and they still said no. Apparently they'd rather be know as "victims" of Israel than a nation.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Oh and another thing Crypto, if an 11 year old boy "killed a bunch of people", that wouldn't be a negative thing to the Pali's. If he he were 11 and truly proficient at murder, he would be like a young Michael Jordan to these freaks.

 

[Mystic]

If Arafat was truly against terrorism he would denounce this attempt to blow up a child who had been tricked into carrying a bomb-not a willing terrorist at all and a child as well.

I don't understand the post by cryptokid. This boy (eleven years old) was going to be tricked into carrying a bomb and blown up because he might be a mass murderer or something? I think the murderers were the terrorists who tricked the boy into carrying a bomb and were going to murder the boy as well as Israeli soldiers. We don't know what will become of this eleven year old boy when he grows up. Maybe he will be a mass murderer. But I doubt very much he is a mass murderer now at eleven years of age.

 

[Asinine]

I second needtoknow's sentiments. It's really pretty pathetic to hear some people go on about how liberals are pro-terror. Sometimes I think those people are about as brainwashed as a Hamas member.

As a left-leaning guy, I'd personally like to see every member of Hamas or Islamic Jihad drop dead of a stroke this instant.

And he's right about the rest of the Arab world. Having a poor, oppressed, outraged population of Palestinians allows them to outwardly hate Israel and justify it. They don't care about the Palestinians. In fact Sharon and leaders from Jordan were meeting to see how they could prevent a migration of Palestinians into Jordan. See? They don't want them.

 

[Gary Allan]

Many of you here appear to share the view that I did prior to 911 ...that a shovel to the whole bunch would be "appropriate".

Yet most of you redily acknowledge that this "innocent boy" was USED by someone EVIL.

Not all Palestinians are evil and terrorists (this boy for example). Only a fool believes this. Most are victims of both the Israelis and those who choose to combat them with these types of techniques.

A sizable majority of Palestinians don't have the luxury of fighting for some ideology ..they're too busy figuring out how to eat.

How any of you can label them all "trash" is beyond my ability as a human to comprehend. These people are not Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge ...most are the Vietnam villagers that got stepped on by both the VC and the Americans. They bear the burden of everyone else's actions and the only thing that they will notice if and when one side prevails is that they fighting will stop.

 

[keith]

quote:

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Originally posted by Asinine:
As a left-leaning guy, I'd personally like to see every member of Hamas or Islamic Jihad drop dead of a stroke this instant.

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I think that is the difference between left and right. Those on the right are not going to wait for a heart attack and watch countless terrorist attacks on us, but will instead hunt them and nuke them. Waiting has proven thoughout history to be no more than waiting for your own destruction.

Keith.