Amsoil Signature Series & GF-7

[Adkcedarman]

Any chance theres a VOA for the reformulation out yet? I cant seem to find it, granted i am a bit scatterbrained right now and wanted to drop the Q here before I forget.

 

[facility1]

The SDS sheet is for what it is for hazardous materials involved!!!!, not a recipe for other than that. If a certain base oil formulation is not deemed dangerous then it is NOT on the sds list., the actual formulation is generally proprietary information. to the manufacture of the product. so only you are assuming what happens here.

learning for many is a ongoing process.

 

[Adkcedarman]

learning for many is a ongoing process.

Learning is an ongoing process for everyone!

 

[facility1]

Learning is an ongoing process for everyone!

very true.

 

[doverlabs]

I wish they would make a 5W-40 in the Signature Series.

You and me both. I’d love a 5w-40 racing oil as that’s partly why I’m using HPL BARO on my Abarth.

 

[buster]

 

[ltslimjim]

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Proof that prevention is the best approach in the first place.

 

[martinq]

How many cycles of the reference IIIH test are required for stuck rings to start appearing?

 

[OVERKILL]

How many cycles of the reference IIIH test are required for stuck rings to start appearing?

Excellent question. It's also important to keep in mind that the test engine (Stellantis Pentastar) is not what I would describe as a great example of an engine prone to this issue. I am surprised that the API continue to use it and that the sequence hasn't been revised to something more representative of the problems observed, which would be an offering that's DI and turbocharged.

 

[4wd]

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VRP should see the water vibrate in the glass - is hunting …

 

[martinq]

VRP should see the water vibrate in the glass - is hunting …

I'd love to see Valvoline post similar test results. I'm curious what Amsoil can do to remove those piston deposits.

 

[tired]

Any chance theres a VOA for the reformulation out yet? I cant seem to find it, granted i am a bit scatterbrained right now and wanted to drop the Q here before I forget.

I haven't seen one yet. @Pablo said he'd send one though.

 

[tired]

VRP should see the water vibrate in the glass - is hunting …

 

[buster]

How many cycles of the reference IIIH test are required for stuck rings to start appearing?

The goal is just to pass the test. The emphasis of the test is how well the oil handles 303F temps for 90 hours straight to see if it can prevent piston deposits, ring sticking, wear etc.

Amsoil likes to double it to 180 hours to demonstrate oxidation resistance and cleanliness.

https://www.swri.org/sites/default/files/sequence-iiih-test.pdf


Amsoil tested their SS line in a Ranger Raptor for 25k mile drains which is a GDI engine.

 

[Brian123]

The emphasis of the test is how well the oil handles 303F temps for 90 hours straight to see if it can prevent piston deposits, ring sticking, wear etc.

Great Test, but this test does not replicate normal driving! The most driving I did straight was 4 hours, and that was from Maryland where I live to Northvale, New Jersey! I only did that like 5 times in 30 years, most of my driving today is 10 miles 1 way and back.

 

[Canyonero]

Great Test, but this test does not replicate normal driving! The most driving I did straight was 4 hours, and that was from Maryland where I live to Northvale, New Jersey! I only did that like 5 times in 30 years, most of my driving today is 10 miles 1 way and back.

That's..... the idea behind a lot of testing like this. Faithfully emulating real world conditions would be so insanely time-consuming no one could complete testing in any useful timeframe.

 

[tired]

Amsoil tested their SS line in a Ranger Raptor for 25k mile drains which is a GDI engine.

Wasn't it an F-150 Raptor? Small point but i think it adds a turbo to the GDI.

 

[buster]

Wasn't it an F-150 Raptor? Small point but i think it adds a turbo to the GDI.

Yeah F-150 Raptor which is a turbo GDI. Good choice for real world test engine.