If Series 2000 0w-30 is better why is the "Four ball test" worst then the 10w-30 amsoil, .374 vs .35 did I miss something?
Amsoil Series 2000 vs other Q's
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The 4-ball wear test has been discussed here many times. I don't think it is all that valid of a test for motor oils. Even is you believe it has worth, this would be splitting hairs anyway.
I would ignore the 4-ball in deciding between these two oils.
I would ignore the 4-ball in deciding between these two oils.
There are more salient criteria than the 4-ball-wear test. That test may serve as an index of sorts, and it is used in the industry for guidelines regarding wear characteristics. More important is the extended OCI and oil filter changes along with UOA to justify the high cost of the oil.
Ok, looking at specs again...
The "Four Ball Test" is different using different oils, 0w-30 using 150c 1800rpm vs. 10w-30 75c 1200rpm the rest of test is the same in both.
So in really world 91f right now is one oil better then the other?
Why would Amsoil say 0w-30 for my car, and a local Amsoil dealer says 0w-30? Right now I running 10w-30, but in the future would one be better then the other for me?
I don't see why 0w-30 is $8.35 a quart when 10w-30 is $5.85 a quart.
The "Four Ball Test" is different using different oils, 0w-30 using 150c 1800rpm vs. 10w-30 75c 1200rpm the rest of test is the same in both.
So in really world 91f right now is one oil better then the other?
Why would Amsoil say 0w-30 for my car, and a local Amsoil dealer says 0w-30? Right now I running 10w-30, but in the future would one be better then the other for me?
I don't see why 0w-30 is $8.35 a quart when 10w-30 is $5.85 a quart.
>>>I don't see why 0w-30 is $8.35 a quart when 10w-30 is $5.85 a quart.
In my opinion, and that of a lot of others, the 0W-30 is a better oil than the 10W-30.
Some years back, when the 0W-30 first came out, my son-in-law helped himself to a load of it, replacing the 10W-30. He called me about 6 weeks later to say he was consistently getting an extra 50 miles or more before the little red light came on telling him to get gas soon.
Both oils have been reformulated (maybe a couple of times) since then, but I use the 0W-30 in all my own cars--I think it is worth the extra $10 per year per car.
In my opinion, and that of a lot of others, the 0W-30 is a better oil than the 10W-30.
Some years back, when the 0W-30 first came out, my son-in-law helped himself to a load of it, replacing the 10W-30. He called me about 6 weeks later to say he was consistently getting an extra 50 miles or more before the little red light came on telling him to get gas soon.
Both oils have been reformulated (maybe a couple of times) since then, but I use the 0W-30 in all my own cars--I think it is worth the extra $10 per year per car.
The car is a '03' Acura TL 3.2 S, the manual called for 5w-20 which I felt was a joke. (Sorry not a fan of the really thin stuff)
I now wonder if 0w-30 would provide even better MPG, or a better kick in the pants?
I now wonder if 0w-30 would provide even better MPG, or a better kick in the pants?
Thanks Buster,
You have completed the picture for me.
You have completed the picture for me.
Kickster, I think he referred to VIIs and not additives.
Viscosity index improvers are part of the additive package blended into base oil to produce engine oil.
Your old mechanic teacher may have had an element of truth in his statement many years ago, but that hasn't been true for many years. Except for engines operated in constant service in (industrial engines, for example), multi-vis oils provide much better flow and consequent better lubrication until fully warmed.
Truck and construction equipment engines use 15W-40 (except old Detroit 2-strokes). Railroad, tugboat, and generator engines use straight 40 wt. Different oils for different usages. Also, except in specialized oils for certain applications, 15W-40 has the best, up-to-date formulation.
Ken
Your old mechanic teacher may have had an element of truth in his statement many years ago, but that hasn't been true for many years. Except for engines operated in constant service in (industrial engines, for example), multi-vis oils provide much better flow and consequent better lubrication until fully warmed.
Truck and construction equipment engines use 15W-40 (except old Detroit 2-strokes). Railroad, tugboat, and generator engines use straight 40 wt. Different oils for different usages. Also, except in specialized oils for certain applications, 15W-40 has the best, up-to-date formulation.
Ken
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