Alkaline batteries

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It appears that China has managed to improve on the Duracell! These came with a trail camera purchase. I couldn’t find any “no leak” guarantees anywhere.😁

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Whatever they do they can't match the leaky perfection of copper tops 😋

Found a full pack of blue-green mass in a sealed (burst) package in my closet recently, with Duracells sticking out here and there. Expiration date 2026.
 
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No worries, China won't be able or willing to sell anything to US soon due to tariffs, batteries will be all made in USA, few to choose from and more expensive. Where was the trail cam made?
 
I understand US is trying to balance their trades sheets but these tariffs are gonna ruin US.
As far as batteries go, just use batteries that don't leak and can work in outdoors equipment well with temps and humidity swings. Don't use just any batteries that were included with the cam. If anything, use those in some indoor device that you can monitor for batteries failure easily and replace them before too late. For cleaning leaks I used qtips and vinegar with great success.
 
This got way too political. I posted it as a bit of humor for those of us who hate duraleak. I’m old enough to remember when Duracell was a metal cladded symbol of quality. I switched to eneloops and energizer lithium long ago.
 
I didn't know there were lithium batteries that were one-time use. I wonder what happens if you try to re-charge them.

I notice that the lithium cells generally have a higher no-load voltage (1.8) vs the alkalines (1.6) and weigh much less (15 g vs 24 g) and have higher internal resistance. The higher mah capacity of the lithiums combined with their lower mass give them quite a higher energy density compared to the alkalines. It would have been nice to see these densities plotted.

What I don't get about these lithium batteres is that they have a cell voltage of 1.8 V - but I thought lithium cells had a cell voltage of 3.8 (discharged) to 4.2 (fully charged) volts. ?
 
Are they made anywhere other than China?

Good luck with anything like an A27 or A23 - those are 12V cylindrical cells that are basically 6 tiny alkalines in series.

The worst I've ever seen were Ikea alkalines, that were labelled as made in Germany by Varta. I had several that had leaked in the package after maybe a year. Their Chinese made alkalines weren't necessarily the best, but they didn't leak unless they were installed and drained.
 
I didn't know there were lithium batteries that were one-time use. I wonder what happens if you try to re-charge them.

I notice that the lithium cells generally have a higher no-load voltage (1.8) vs the alkalines (1.6) and weigh much less (15 g vs 24 g) and have higher internal resistance. The higher mah capacity of the lithiums combined with their lower mass give them quite a higher energy density compared to the alkalines. It would have been nice to see these densities plotted.

What I don't get about these lithium batteres is that they have a cell voltage of 1.8 V - but I thought lithium cells had a cell voltage of 3.8 (discharged) to 4.2 (fully charged) volts. ?

Sure. 3V nominal Lithium-manganese primary predates lithium-ion rechargeable. They were typically called CR and came in coin-cell sizes like CR2032 or cylindrical sizes like CR123. I remember there used to be a lot of cameras that used CR2 or CR123. There are some rechargeable replacements, although I'm not sure how they deal with the higher inherent voltage of lithium-ion.

The AA replacement lithium primary batteries are a different chemistry. I recall there used to be issue with voltage spikes in earlier versions that would damage devices. What research I've found is that at least the Energizer ones are lithium-iron disulfide.
 
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