Likely I should pay more attention to UOA's. Doesn't wix have a good history with them?
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I use Delco PF48 for my application, which is a champ PH48, which is also identical to the Purolator classic L12222....
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
When AC Delco goes to the e-core design on the filters that I use (46 and 59), then I won't be using AC Delco's anymore.
why?
When AC Delco goes to the e-core design on the filters that I use (46 and 59), then I won't be using AC Delco's anymore.
why?
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
When AC Delco goes to the e-core design on the filters that I use (46 and 59), then I won't be using AC Delco's anymore.
why?
I am curious too, this isnt some cheaply made fram garbage. These felt endcaps actually hold.
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
When AC Delco goes to the e-core design on the filters that I use (46 and 59), then I won't be using AC Delco's anymore.
why?
I am curious too, this isnt some cheaply made fram garbage. These felt endcaps actually hold.
yeah, i seriously doubt AC Delco lowered their standards just so Champ Labs could switch to their Ecore design
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Originally Posted By: labman
Likely I should pay more attention to UOA's. Doesn't wix have a good history with them?
You know that's a good question and I have never paid attention either. There are so many variable in a UOA as most dirt gets in through the air filter.
I have examimed, and thought about, hypothesized about, so many filters and I still like WIX.
Likely I should pay more attention to UOA's. Doesn't wix have a good history with them?
You know that's a good question and I have never paid attention either. There are so many variable in a UOA as most dirt gets in through the air filter.
I have examimed, and thought about, hypothesized about, so many filters and I still like WIX.
When my stock of AC Delco PF58s made by Champion runs out, I am changing to Wix or NAPA Gold
OK, I had some time to kill out of town today. Yes, I went to a different Wal*Mart and looked at oil filters. @#$%^&*&^#$%^, no clearanced ST3950's.
Looked inside some. The ST 3593A's were the crummy old clicker bypass ones. Some of the other numbers did have the extra inlet holes and the plastic center core. However, they looked like they had a steel end cap in the dome end. Ecore with a steel endcap?????????
Looked inside some. The ST 3593A's were the crummy old clicker bypass ones. Some of the other numbers did have the extra inlet holes and the plastic center core. However, they looked like they had a steel end cap in the dome end. Ecore with a steel endcap?????????
Originally Posted By: labman
OK, I had some time to kill out of town today.
Doncha love that? I do. Wandering around a different town for a while.
Originally Posted By: labman
However, they looked like they had a steel end cap in the dome end. Ecore with a steel endcap?????????
I think you're seeing center of the leaf spring.
It has a dome formed on it that plugs the oposite end of the center tube.
OK, I had some time to kill out of town today.
Doncha love that? I do. Wandering around a different town for a while.
Originally Posted By: labman
However, they looked like they had a steel end cap in the dome end. Ecore with a steel endcap?????????
I think you're seeing center of the leaf spring.
It has a dome formed on it that plugs the oposite end of the center tube.
The 3980 in my truck right now is E-core. I'll cut it up when Im done with it.
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I've got a PF-52 in my S-10 now. And it is not an e-core design. It had a much better and different backplate. Suprisingly, my Walmart is out of the PF-52s, so I'll be switching back to Napa Gold.
Being a 100% GM owner, I have used AC Delco filters for years when I could get them easily and affordably. For years I would get them 2 for $5 at Kmart on sale. Then I would buy them a Meijer for $3.50 a piece. Then I would get them at Walmart for $3.50-$4 but noticed that the Supertech non-ecore for $2.84 and the AC Delco non-ecore looked like the identical filter. Now it looks like the AC Delcos are switching to the ecore design also. I went to my local Walmart and bought up all of the non-ecore ACDelco and STs I could find. The selection at Walmart seems to be shrinking for ACDelco.
Perhaps to the benefit of the next guy. I think Champ and Wal*Mart may be clearing out older, non Ecore stock. I certainly want nothing to do with the cheap dome end bypasses, although that isn't an issue with most AC numbers.
In the past, the PF 1177 had half again more media than the ST 3950, so I wouldn't be too sure any ST is a good as the equivilent Ac.
Found a PF 1127 on the shelf at at new place. It can a Fram like clicker bypass. Put it back on the shelf. 5 round inlet holes and the plate stamped with a ''Y''. Champ?
In the past, the PF 1177 had half again more media than the ST 3950, so I wouldn't be too sure any ST is a good as the equivilent Ac.
Found a PF 1127 on the shelf at at new place. It can a Fram like clicker bypass. Put it back on the shelf. 5 round inlet holes and the plate stamped with a ''Y''. Champ?
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