I'd bet it was switched from a base end to a dome end. Base end bypass valves are more complicated and add more cost. It's another cost cutting move.
A Better Choice Than FL820S ?
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Ya that’s most likely the case.
What do we think of the Fram XG2? I see that available on Rock Auto…
Many reports here of the Fram Ultra XG2 still being wire backed media. If so, can't go wrong with that.
Fram XG2 > Champ XL ?
I’ve considered the Ford Racing 820 also as the construction looks to be very good but looks like it’s not synthetic media? Disappointing for the price. When bought in bulk they appear to be about 2X the cost of a Fram XG2 for me.
XG2 might be a hair more efficient and rated for a longer OCI, but both would be good choices IMO.
The Ford Racing 820 prioritizes flow over efficiency-the XG2 will give you both flow AND efficiency. Good news is, I haven't seen a NON-wire backed XG2 yet, so the WMs (& Meijers, is any around), should have a solid selection of OG Ultra XG2s. Even Ford has moved on from the base-end bypass on the updated version of the FL820S, so I don't worry too much about it.
The Ford Racing oil filter seems to actually be pretty efficient. This is old data, but it shows the efficiency is 99% @ 20u. It also shows that it flows well (ie, a low dP vs Flow curve). You have official info that shows otherwise?
Is that a Mann/Purolator made filter? I wasn’t aware they made (or used) media that was rated that high? Still can’t believe it would out flow & out filter an OG Ultra, Ascent showed the original Ultra out filtered all the other filters they tested by a large margin, even hitting 50% @ 5 microns-no conventional or synblend media is going to be near that.
I run the 820S for years without issue. I do get it when people feel nervous over it. I’ve cut quiet a few open and never found any tears. I also never start the Mustang in the dead of winter. It’s just a summer car. I’ve never noticed any leaks from the oil filter.
I’ve run Fram as well. No issues to report.
Idling long periods with variable displacement oil pumps worries me. That 7.3 has had some lifter and cam issues. I somewhat think that oil pump is probably not giving enough oil to the engine idling.
I’ve run Fram as well. No issues to report.
Idling long periods with variable displacement oil pumps worries me. That 7.3 has had some lifter and cam issues. I somewhat think that oil pump is probably not giving enough oil to the engine idling.
Ya it will be interesting to see if this truck will make it to 10,000 engine hours without eating the lifters.
When I bought the truck they advertised the 7.3 as being built for work truck duty’s including extended idling. Meanwhile it seems the trucks that are having issues are box trucks with extended idle hours and a good history of frequent oil changes….
It’s on warranty until 240,000km which should be around 9,000 hrs given my current use. If it makes it until then with out issue I’ll probably inspect the lifters and go from there.
One could argue if you run the 820S while under warranty, then Ford can't make a stink about using another brands oil filter.
The ones I've cut open have never torn but they look sketchy. Millions of 820S have been used so its not like engines are blowing up everyday. Most people never cut oil filters open.
I've posted pictures of the filters over the years here. I generally only go through 1 filter a year, changed in the fall when I park it.
I’ve considered sticking with the 820s just for that reason but I guess I’m just not all that worried about it.
I’ve cut open a few of the dozen or so that I’ve used and also haven’t seen any tears but also have seen some things I didn’t like at all. I’ll probably go to the Fram Ultra in the fall after I use up a few more of my older WIX XPs in the warmer months.
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Given that the XG2 seems to be still wire-backed, if you can find some of those, I'd be all over them. That's what I run on both my HEMI's, which take the same filter.
Checked my Canadian Tire and they were all the new style XG2s now.
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Well, another option is the Fleetguard LF16002.
I would also consider the AC Delco filters. I've cut a few open from my truck and they look like a well made filter.
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Here’s the Ford Racing filter cut open and compared to a Wix Racing filter by Whip City Wrencher. Seeing this comparison video and the info posted by ZeeOSix, the Ford Racing filter looks like a really solid choice! I’ll be buying next for sure for my yearly OCI Fords.
Certainly has good construction. I’ll hard to see if I can find some efficiency numbers on it