'96 Pathfinder - 16.9 mpg - Pathetic!

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I have a '96 Pathfinder, 2nd owner; bought just about a year ago. Original owner had not driven it in over a year due to dementia; his daughter sold me the vehicle.

Since I bought it, I've:

- Had the timing belt replaced; it should be good for at least 5 years now - reputable Nissan shop (RNS)
- Water pump replaced, same time as the TB (RNS)
- New air filter (Fram, I think)
- Changed the oil and filter twice now (Wix filter)
- Had it tuned up with new spark plugs, SP wires and points etc. (RNS)
- Did one transmission fluid swap (about 3.5 qts out of 9)

Gas mileage is about 16.9 mpg. Most travel is TN rural 2 lane roads; very little stop and go traffic - usually towns with 2-3 traffic lights.

Next steps:

- Mass air flow sensor - clean and/or replace
- O2 sensor - clean and/or replace

Any other ecoomendations? I can't believe that a 3l gas engine can't make better gas mileage.

Thanks for any comments, suggestions and help.
 
EPA rating was 15 city/19 highway
2/4WD?
A/C on?

My experiences with several VG33 V6s yielded similar mileage
Clean the MAF, check for vacuum leaks, fuel filter?
Anyone put a timing light on it lately? (If it's had a distributor, which it probably has had at least 1)

Scan for codes, thermostat making it fully warm up?
Check TPS adjustment, pull the vacuum hose off the FPR, make sure it's not leaking fuel

It's been a minute since I dug deep into my Villager, a Pathfinder, or an old Maxima 🤔
 
Sounds about right for a 4000lb brick with a VQ engine. My even more modern Xterra gets about same.

2wd or 4wd?

Who is driving it. VQ mileage is not at all forgiving for even a mildly aggressive skinny pedal.

I would log your long term fuel trims before you fire the parts canon.

Also MAF cleaned and logged as already mentioned. Should be around 3.5 at idle.

Pull a plug and have a look - one by the firewall, there always the worst for some reason.

I promise you won't get much better than 18-19 unless you push it down a hill.
 
Sounds about right for a 4000lb brick with a VQ engine. My even more modern Xterra gets about same.

2wd or 4wd?

Who is driving it. VQ mileage is not at all forgiving for even a mildly aggressive skinny pedal.

I would log your long term fuel trims before you fire the parts canon.

Also MAF cleaned and logged as already mentioned. Should be around 3.5 at idle.

Pull a plug and have a look - one by the firewall, there always the worst for some reason.

I promise you won't get much better than 18-19 unless you push it down a hill.
As mentioned by @michaelluscher , it's got a VG33 engine. Not VQ.
 
Swap out the differential(s) fluid for 75W-90; factory spec is 80W-90 so synthetic might help a fraction. If it's 4WD, swap out the transfer case fluid as well.

The driveshaft(s) should have a grease fitting. Make sure that these get greased periodically. Not necessarily an MPG improvement but something that could be easily missed.

Second the recommendation about replacing the fuel filter. Remove the spare tire and it's easy to access.

My 2001 Pathfinder (VQ35DE instead of VG33 engine) got similar gas mileage. I don't think it'll be improved much for a vehicle that has the aerodynamics of a vending machine on wheels.
 
You gotta be kidding. I take it you haven’t owned many midsize SUVs from the mid 90s/early 00s. If your 30 year old Pathfinder is getting 16.9 mpg TODAY considering yourself lucky after decades of drivetrain, engine and fuel system wear. Are you not aware it has a 16mpg combined (15city/19hwy rating) and EPA ratings, especially back then could rarely be duplicated with rear world driving.
 
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