Fake news. Battery only costs $7500.
$60,000 Hyundai Ioniq 5 battery replacement quote
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Oh come on JK, if there is anything posted negative about tesla you are right in there defending it. Someone mentions the cheap vegan leather and crap dash and controls your answer is "elon is taking a minimalist approach".
From now on I hope anything negative posters see or find is getting posted just the opposite of what you are doing.
Are you kidding you buy into any and all crap the muskrat is selling, I would say you are more gullible than most.
This is an excellent point. We don't know what the dealership's policy is on this type of item/damage.
Maybe the insurance policy for the dealership is up for renewal and there is an additional rider if they repair EVs - so they don't have the rider and they don't want the business of repairing EVs - so massive price quoted to run off the customer.
From the article:
"Faruki added that another big part of the problem is that there are few subject-matter experts to diagnose whether damage to batteries can be repaired and no standards or regulations to determine whether repaired batteries can be put back on the road."
I've seen crazy prices on eBay for items when a seller runs out of something, but instead of removing the item, they price it so high no one will buy it. Not saying eBay and this dealer are "equivalent", but without being there, it's hard to know what transpired at the service desk.
Also, it seems if the insurer agreed to the write-off, there is a question regarding future liability. No company wants to lose money on purpose, so maybe the insurer is taking the safe bet (lose $60K) versus a vehicle fire destroying a house, contents, and hurting someone. This absolves them of future liability. Probably an actuarial table somewhere that calls this the best loss versus expected loss type of situation.
Again, from the article:
" At BCIT, he said experts are using that availability of parts to do their own research and development on what kind of battery damage can be safely repaired.
They’re also working with the Canadian Standards Association to develop standards around battery repair and certifying technicians, which will help bring the cost of EV repairs down."
So, if there are no standards, who is to say what is safe and what is not? In the situation described, the safe bet is to total it.
I mean, why did the owner take in the vehicle in the first place? To get it checked and "signed off" as okay. For sure, if something happened two months, or even two years later with this battery pack and car, you can for sure believe the car owner will pull that receipt and use it. Any normal person would.
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There are also plenty of Tesla and similar shops around the country. I don't see your point?
Wrong again. "minimal approach" is not defending anything; it is describing. You and others are free to like it or not. I have said many times it is not for everyone.
You can believe the OP story if you wish, but it is incomplete at best and hardly a rigorous analysis. I supported this position with data.
Perhaps elaborate on the bolded section; I find it difficult to follow.
(your post makes no sense, see next post)
It's a true news story.
The Hyundai Dealer said it needed replacement, the internal cooling system was ruptured. Furthermore the Hyundai Dealer told him his warranty is void without replacement of his battery costing tens of thousands of dollars.
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This has all been posted someplace, I think another thread in here or another news story. There are many of them. The $60K is Canadian which for USA is $45,000 USD (I MAY be off a little bit)
The quote was from the dealer, just like anyone would get. Once this hit the media, Hyundai got involved and cut the price of the replacement by 50%
To the best of my sketchy knowledge (since I didnt follow up on this) Hyundai Corp did not give a reason for the change of price.
The whole story is out there for those interested more than me, search engines are your friend.
I agree with you, there was more to the story, typical in mass media and forums. It's scary how people believe anyone looking believable in mass media/YouTube without confirmation of what they are being told.
“Upon inspection, the battery case was impacted to a degree where it warped the case with a deviance of 15mm, causing a rupture of the internal cooling system.”
"Hyundai Canada also told Motormouth that future occurrences of this kind of issue will no longer be dealt with at the dealership level."
https://dailyhive.com/canada/canadian-driver-ev-replacement-battery
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OVERKILL
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OVERKILL
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No, not fake news. I think the "RM" on the end of your part is the key to the low price, because the actual part #, if you look up the vehicle, is missing that (and there are several options depending on how the car is trimmed, per the list I provided) and the non-RM version is expensive:
When it comes to auto parts, the "RM" designation is often used to denote the part is re-manufactured, not new. Therefore, the price difference between new and re-manufactured parts can be substantial.
The price discrepancy is probably also tied to the U.S. taxation policies on new EV batteries that contain less than 50%(?) domestic sourced mineral content, similar to the change in tax credits for EVs starting in 2024.
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OVERKILL
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Yup, exactly. The car was written-off because of the price quoted by the dealer to replace the battery. That's the story. Looking up the battery part #, it indeed IS insanely expensive, so that's the crux of the issue here, not whether the battery was damaged or not.
I see cars daily with various bits of underbody hanging down from the owners running over curbs and the like, it's a fact of life. The battery should be situated so that it is unlikely to sustain damage in these sorts of scenarios if the replacement cost is going to be so prohibitively expensive.
OVERKILL
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Yes, that was my assumption, that the RM part was "Re-Manufactured".
Our Model 3 has to crawl out of the driveway at an angle. I live in a hilly area at the foot of the Santa Cruz Mountains so it's worse than many, but just the same it is easy to scrape. When others borrow it, I always warn them; sometimes it even helps...
I use a low profile trolley jack when rotating the tires; just like when I am doing anything on friend's gorgeous Boxsters...
People replace batteries and motors in EVs. I don't see the quibble.
If it's damage then it's an insurance claim. Are we honestly saying that they're getting stuck with a $60k bag? There's no way the owner is stuck with the cost outright. Dealer inspects and says it's damaged. My next call would be the insurance company. I don't understand how this has went 3 pages of EV trash talk and unless I missed it, I haven't seen this said.
It's either warranty or insurance. The owner would be made whole either way in the end.
Someone will buy car at auction, paint over scrape and sell with aftermarket warranty …,
