Okay so use Mobil 1 ESP 0W-30 available at Walmart for the incredible price of $28 for five quarts. It’s a very good oil at a very good price. You could use it in most vehicles on the planet.
5W30 or 0W40
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They also build them in Europe. And no matter where they are built, Hyundai/Kia want euro oil in them in Europe.
And generally have an ACEA Sequence recommended in the owner’s manual.
ys, that would be euro oil in my book. Though I understand in the US it's more limited to high viscosity versions.
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Toyota was running all their engines up until few years back on ACEA C3, and before that ACEA A3 (gas). Now it is recommending ACEA C5.
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I recommend Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 Euro available at Walmart for $28 for 5 quarts. You can't beat that. Otherwise 5w30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum or any of the 5w30 Valvoline Full Synthetic oils. Also any of the 5w30 Quaker State Full Synthetic, 5w30 Havoline Full Synthetic oils, or 10w30 Castrol Edge.
If you look at viscosity figures in data sheets, 10w30 Edge has similar viscosity as 5w30 in those other oils.
0w40 is thicker than I'd want for your application. Compare product data sheets and you'll see that 0w40 is thicker viscosity at cold start and at full op temp than 0w30 or 5w30. Don't take my word for it. Download the data sheet for each oil and compare claimed viscosity cSt @ 40KV and 100KV. Also known as cSt @ 40C and 100C.
100KV is 100C is 212F is typical engine full op temp.
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Just so he doesn't find out it's a euro oil.
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0w30 Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX (in USA) and 0w30 Quaker State Euro LX (in Canada) are the same oil. It's the best of the best mass produced, namebrand Xw-30 grade oil, IMO. It's certainly more than good enough for the OP's car, but it's expensive and not widely available. If the OP can get it and is willing to afford it, then heck ya!
* Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 (is Euro oil) is IMO one of the best and is surprisingly affordable at Walmart. It's a bargain.
Those ^ Euro oils are fine for an Asian car. Euro oils are made to a higher standard than most American oils, but some American oils are good too.
5w30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum would be good for OP's car, but not quite on the level of the two 0w30 choices above. PUP costs more than most. Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 is better and costs less at Walmart.
5w30 Quaker State Full Synthetic
* 5w30 Havoline Lifelong would be good for the OP's car. It's a bargain price at Walmart for a good oil. Good oil and very affordable.
* 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic would be good for OP's car. Auto Zone claims to have it on clearance sale for $15 for 5 quarts. I say "claims" because everytime I tried to buy something on sale from Autozone they told me they were out of stock. If you can get it for $15 that would be a score.
5w30 Idemitsu IFG 3 is made specifically for Asian cars, but also works fine in American cars. Walmart, NAPA, and other places sell it. It's a good oil, but I don't think it's better than the others recommended above. It's slightly expensive. It costs more than most. Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic are better and costs less. Havoline is as good or better, and costs less.
* I asterix next to highend oils that are bargain prices.
* Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 (is Euro oil) is IMO one of the best and is surprisingly affordable at Walmart. It's a bargain.
Those ^ Euro oils are fine for an Asian car. Euro oils are made to a higher standard than most American oils, but some American oils are good too.
5w30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum would be good for OP's car, but not quite on the level of the two 0w30 choices above. PUP costs more than most. Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 is better and costs less at Walmart.
5w30 Quaker State Full Synthetic
* 5w30 Havoline Lifelong would be good for the OP's car. It's a bargain price at Walmart for a good oil. Good oil and very affordable.
* 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic would be good for OP's car. Auto Zone claims to have it on clearance sale for $15 for 5 quarts. I say "claims" because everytime I tried to buy something on sale from Autozone they told me they were out of stock. If you can get it for $15 that would be a score.
5w30 Idemitsu IFG 3 is made specifically for Asian cars, but also works fine in American cars. Walmart, NAPA, and other places sell it. It's a good oil, but I don't think it's better than the others recommended above. It's slightly expensive. It costs more than most. Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic are better and costs less. Havoline is as good or better, and costs less.
* I asterix next to highend oils that are bargain prices.
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Something is fishy.
A Google search tells me Hyundai recommends Quaker State 0w20 for the OP's car in the USA, but also says 5w20 and 5w30 are acceptable.
Idemitsu (popular Asian brand of oil) makes 0w20, 5w20, and 5w30. Idemitsu recommends 5w20 for this car. Idemitsu doesn't make 0w30.
AFAIK 0w30 and 5w30 are not the primary recommendations for this car in USA or in Asia, but 0w30 might be in Europe. Where is the OP located if his owners manual recommends 0w30?
OP, are you in Europe? If so, you have more access to more 0w30 oils than we do in USA. Wherever you are, 5w20 and 5w30 are also fine.
Wherever you are located, it'd be easier to give you applicable advice if you included your general location in your profile. Please at least include the nation you're located in. If it's a large nation, then also include the region/state/province/oblast or city.
A Google search tells me Hyundai recommends Quaker State 0w20 for the OP's car in the USA, but also says 5w20 and 5w30 are acceptable.
Idemitsu (popular Asian brand of oil) makes 0w20, 5w20, and 5w30. Idemitsu recommends 5w20 for this car. Idemitsu doesn't make 0w30.
AFAIK 0w30 and 5w30 are not the primary recommendations for this car in USA or in Asia, but 0w30 might be in Europe. Where is the OP located if his owners manual recommends 0w30?
OP, are you in Europe? If so, you have more access to more 0w30 oils than we do in USA. Wherever you are, 5w20 and 5w30 are also fine.
Wherever you are located, it'd be easier to give you applicable advice if you included your general location in your profile. Please at least include the nation you're located in. If it's a large nation, then also include the region/state/province/oblast or city.
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Not in Europe but in Pennsylvania. And the 2023 manual say's Q.S. 0W30. But try and find it. Q.S. does not produce 0W30. Looked all over the net & it's simply not there. Getting so many opinions I'm ready to sell the POS and by a bike!!
Brand is not relevant here. Nor is the winter rating, unless a 5W rated oil is inappropriate for your starting temperatures. Are you starting below -30 or so?
Selling a vehicle because you cannot find a suggested brand or a recommended winter rating would be silly. Remember that what is listed in the owner's manual is a recommendation, not a requirement. Especially when it relates to brand and winter rating.
Just use an off the shelf 0w-30 like recommended (Pennzoil or Mobil 1 is fine) from wherever you buy oil (Walmart, Amazon, Autozone, etc) and do changes at the recommended intervals based on your conditions. If you don’t know what your conditions are then just default to the serve schedule. What happens after that is completely out of your hands.
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Recommendation huh? Was not aware of that. As far as the winter temperature goes it varies. Never goes below "0". 20's 30's teens in that area unless you live in the Pocono mountains. That's another story. As far as selling the car, I was just a bit frustrated. Thank you for the reply. Just goes to show your never too old to learn something new!
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As I said in an earlier post...
0w30 Quaker State Euro LX is available in Canada according to posts I've read by Canadian forum members. They said it's widely available in Canada, especially at Canadian Tire stores. You're not in Canada, but the exact same oil is available in USA with Pennzoil name on it.
0w30 Pennzoil Euro LX is available in USA from a few sellers. It's not widely available and is slightly expensive (5 qts $37 online). I don't know if that includes shipping.
The QS & P 0w30 are the exact same oil sold under 2 different brand names. I think it's the best mass produced, semi-affordable 0w30 oil. However, you don't need the best.
Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 (another Euro oil) is very good and is available at every Walmart (5 qts $28). You can buy Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 at Walmart for an affordable, easy solution.
All brands of 0w30 oils (that I know of) are Euro oils, which is good because Euro oils are high quality and work very well in Euro, Japanese, and American cars.
(Correction: Mobil 1 does offer Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30, but it's not as good as Mobil 1 ESP 0w30. Both Mobil 0w30 oils are available at Walmart).
Otherwise, use a high quality American 5w30, such as 5w30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum (5 qts $27 Walmart), or 5w30 Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic (5 qts $29 Walmart).
Yesterday I saw Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic oil on closeout sale (5 qts for $15) at Advance Auto Parts online!
There's no reason to be frustrated. You've got several good solutions available. A few of them are even convenient and affordable.
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HPL has Fancy Sauce 0W-30 SP. now if you don't want to spend this kind of cash, then i would go to walmart and pick up ESP 0W-30 and run that. happy oil hunting, old timer 
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