CleanSump
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OBE. Posted a list of 229.5x brands available in Australia seconds after the OP.
5w-30 MB 229.51 Alternatives?
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Higher HTHS means more protection. It is measured at 150c.
Because of that, higher HTHS=more resistance=higher consumption.
Assuming you mean higher fuel consumption?
Valvoline should have MB229.51 readily available.
You should have the usual suspects available: Mobil1, Castrol, SHell.
yes.
So the MB229.51/52 spec seems to be having a low sulphated ash content and high level of HTHS?
Guessing some oils might meet these requirement's but might not have paid the spec?
Example - Gulf Western Premium Energy SP Engine Oil - 10W-30
www.gulfwestern.com.au
Does say Petrol though, no mention of diesel - assuming it might not have the cleaning additives to support a diesel engine but the ash content/HTHS seems fine?
Guessing some oils might meet these requirement's but might not have paid the spec?
Example - Gulf Western Premium Energy SP Engine Oil - 10W-30
PREMIUM ENERGY 10W-30 - Gulf Western Oil
A synthetic high performance, Resource Conserving engine oil. It has been designed to provide excellent fuel efficiency and minimise engine wear, particularly at cold start-ups and in stop-start driving conditions.
www.gulfwestern.com.au
Does say Petrol though, no mention of diesel - assuming it might not have the cleaning additives to support a diesel engine but the ash content/HTHS seems fine?
If HTHS is >=3.5 then ok, if not forget.So the MB229.51/52 spec seems to be having a low sulphated ash content and high level of HTHS?
Guessing some oils might meet these requirement's but might not have paid the spec?
Example - Gulf Western Premium Energy SP Engine Oil - 10W-30
PREMIUM ENERGY 10W-30 - Gulf Western Oil
A synthetic high performance, Resource Conserving engine oil. It has been designed to provide excellent fuel efficiency and minimise engine wear, particularly at cold start-ups and in stop-start driving conditions.
Does say Petrol though, no mention of diesel - assuming it might not have the cleaning additives to support a diesel engine but the ash content/HTHS seems fine?
If 5w30 229.51 price/availability is the issue... well ok. If it's because grade and protection don't worry, most 5w40 after any miles works similar or worst than good 0-5w30s.
I recommend hymemsys resume post #5 for 229.51. Other options are 5w40 505.01 or LL04 or GM Dexos2 DPF or FCA 9.55535-S2 + C3, Ford WSS-M2C-917A or simple C3.
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CleanSump
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This isn't hard.
Go to the BEVO and find an oil available in Australia.
The HTHS of 3.5 is the key, not x30 or x40. If it doesn't get well below freezing, the W rating is moot.
Google for the spec and you'll come up with oil available in your area.
These are made in Australia and on the BEVO. Others are available in Australia.
ENVIRO+ 5W-40 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, DANDENONG/AUSTRALIA
EC FORMULA 5W-30 Atlantic Lubricants Pty Ltd, INGLEBURN/AUSTRALIA
ENVIRO PLUS C3 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, DANDENONG/AUSTRALIA
Go to the BEVO and find an oil available in Australia.
The HTHS of 3.5 is the key, not x30 or x40. If it doesn't get well below freezing, the W rating is moot.
Google for the spec and you'll come up with oil available in your area.
These are made in Australia and on the BEVO. Others are available in Australia.
ENVIRO+ 5W-40 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, DANDENONG/AUSTRALIA
EC FORMULA 5W-30 Atlantic Lubricants Pty Ltd, INGLEBURN/AUSTRALIA
ENVIRO PLUS C3 Penrite Oil Company Pty Ltd, DANDENONG/AUSTRALIA
| SYNERGY EURO 5W-30 C3 | TRITECH LUBRICANTS AND SALES PTY LTD, DANDENONG SOUTH, VICTORIA/AUSTRALIA |
I would not worry about sheering.
Thank you. The correct answer.
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What I found interesting;
Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 C3 - HTHS is 2.9
Penrite Enviro+ 5W-40 - HTHS is >3.5
Where are you getting that information, to be C3 it inherently has to have an HTHS above 3.5 otherwise it would be C2, plus the Kinematic viscosity is 11.7 which would imply an HTHS that's up in the 3.5 range (at least using current lubrication formulation technology that would meet MB229.52), I can't find anything about the HTHS, perhaps you read something somewhere that generically stated the HTHS is above 2.9 on the 30 grade and above 3.5 on the 40 grade because that is the basic requirement of SAE J300.
Enviro+ 5w30 C3 is HTHS >=3.5, because oil properties and approval VW 504/507. It's compatible with C2 out warranty, but it's not C2.
You have Gulf syn-x 6000 5w-40 C3 too.
I asked penrite in their live chat what their HTHS ratings were for each of those oils and thats what they told me
You must have misunderstood.
Except that this oil neither has VW 504/507 approval nor does it even claim it's "suitable for" or "recommended". However it does appear to have actual 229.52 approval.
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Oh good advice.
I did talk about little different oil then Enviro+ 5w30 Full Synth (C3+504/507+HTHS 3.5)
Other way Enviro+ C3 5w30 is not 504/507, anyway C3 too and should be HTHS 3.5 too (different additive/base)
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