2k miles - redline now or wait for next OC?

[blownalcohol]

I will call redline tomorrow also. Just want to hear the boards thoughts/experiences.

I have a 2010 ultra with 2,000 miles. I am going to change the oil before Tuesday. I have a trip planned this weekend to Key West (2500 miles).
I have some redline 20w50. I have read that RL recommends having atleast 3k miles before switching to their oils. If this is true, I can buy another 4 qts of dino oil and change over when I return.

Why the long wait? Is it something to do with it being polyol ester basestocks?

I have shockproof heavy in the trans, and MTL in the primary.

 

[Johnny]

If 20W-50 is the correct weight for your bike, go for it. 2k is enough.

 

[DieselTech]

I'm with johnny go for it!!

Redlinbe 20-50 motorcycle oil should be the correct product for you.

You gotta be lovin that shockproof?

 

[Bluestream]

Acording to this you don't have to wait at all:

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html

There is no real reason for Redline to make that recommendation other than trying to differentiate there product from regular oil

 

[blownalcohol]

thanks for the advice.
I just realized I posted this in the wrong forum. I should have posted in the motorcycle oils/lube. This is the used oil analysis.
Who can I pm about getting this in the correct forum?

 

[EagleFTE]

I did about 2k on my 2005 TC88 engine with Dino and have been running Red Line since. Red Line says 3k but I take that as a guideline not scripture. I know plenty of people that have done the same and used Red Line exclusively after less than 3k breakin. All have sweet running engines 5 to 10 years down the road.

"Acording to this you don't have to wait at all:

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html

There is no real reason for Redline to make that recommendation other than trying to differentiate there product from regular oil"

Mark Lawrence compiled a lot of good information and some questionable information in that write up. Even he says right up front his write up is limited to about 75 hours of research as a non lube engineer. Red Line is Polyol Ester (POE), not "polyester". Using a Group III as a factory fill does not rationalize using POE for break in. Maybe you would get a good break-in, maybe not. I would want to run that experiment on an engine belonging to someone else.

But there is plenty of evidence that says 2K is good to go and I own one such example.

 

[Zedhed]

Yeah, you need that $10 per quart Redline to protect the roller-bearing crank, lifters, and rockers. As everyone "knows" roller bearings need much better lubrication than plain bearings. Plus with the additional stress of the transmission NOT sharing the engine oil is another reason to use RL. That's why HD uses them in their TC engines -- so you'll have to use a Grp V -based synthetic $10 per qt. oil.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Acording to this you don't have to wait at all:

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Oils1.html

There is no real reason for Redline to make that recommendation other than trying to differentiate there product from regular oil

It helps Redline oil avoid any problems if the brand new engine fails. Usually an engine will fail right away.

 

[BigCahuna]

The first sentence in the www.calsi.com post should be a clue that this is only his opinion ,which is worth as much as anyone elses.

 

[Lost1]

Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
The first sentence in the www.calsi.com post should be a clue that this is only his opinion ,which is worth as much as anyone elses.


Agreed. His words:
"I am not a lubrication, filtering, chemical or mechanical engineer. I have a degree in engineering, but I studied electrical engineering. I now study physics...
In any case, this is a write up of what I learned in about 75 hours of research on this topic."

Wow, 75 whole hours?
'Nuff said.