24 Powerboost 2K review

I test drove two of them. I really wanted the Tundra since the full roll down rear window was something that I’ve wanted for a long time.

The Tundra just drove ok, but the seats were flat, very firm and uncomfortable. My wife has fibromyalgia and loves the seats in the King Ranch, the Powerboost feels much quicker than the Tundra hybrid setup too.

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That is a very sharp truck.
 
That is a very sharp truck.
Thank you. I wanted the Toyota bad enough that I had to use their Sunset Bronze to replace Ford’s stone grey on the lower part of the two-tone paint. The bronze and brown really pop in certain lights.

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Yea. I ave a 2010 and its shuttered since new under certain hot conditions on lock up. Ford was useless and I wasted coutless hours and gallons of transmission flid and aditives trying to solve the issue. It would go away with the lubrigard additive for about 4000 miles and then come back. 147000 miles on the truck. Many issues. Im not sure whare you live, but Do youself Get the lanolin oil coating. I doubt you will ever have a rust related issue. Mark me! Oh Ford no more for me.
 
Why RWD over 4x4?
I have absolutely no need for 4wd and don't like the added maintenance and weight. 2wd with the locking axle is all I really want.

I bought the truck to tow, we don't camp offroad and I have yet to visit a campsite where I needed anything more than a brief lock the the diff to get us over some loose gravel.
 
I have absolutely no need for 4wd and don't like the added maintenance and weight. 2wd with the locking axle is all I really want.

I bought the truck to tow, we don't camp offroad and I have yet to visit a campsite where I needed anything more than a brief lock the the diff to get us over some loose gravel.

Interesting, I have a 2019 with the 2.7 (Non PowerBoost, of course) that is 2WD with rear lockers and I kinda wish I had 4x4, just in case

Only one time did I get sort of stuck, but of course I was running 6 year old stock tires which were terrible. Just got some Continental TerrainContact A/T tires which seem much better
 
@ctechbob - man I didn’t see this coming - you had a great run with the Ranger! Are you sad to see it go, or was this a well-sorted parting?

What kind of gas mileage do you get?

How does the braking work - does it transition between regen and hydraulic?

It by nature probably has all the auto-stop-start - how often does the engine go quiet?

Can you put an egg under your foot and creep down the street?

Have you played with the 120vac output yet for camper air?

I’m betting it’s a very similar system, just larger, as the hybrid Tacoma.
 
@ctechbob - man I didn’t see this coming - you had a great run with the Ranger! Are you sad to see it go, or was this a well-sorted parting?

I'm sad to see it go. I loved driving the thing, it was working great, and someone is going to get some nice parts on that truck when it sells.

What kind of gas mileage do you get?
From this mornings trip home. Not great, not horrible. You have to drive like an adult. If you make the truck work, your penance is mid-teens mileage.

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How does the braking work - does it transition between regen and hydraulic?

The brake pedal is very stiff. I'm actually not entirely sure if it is brake-by-wire or not. I don't think it is, but don't quote me on that. I'm still learning all the details. But on tip-in to the brakes you first get regen and then hydraulic, as you'd expect. Thing is, it isn't the same every time. I think it depends on what gear the trans is in as to how much it regens, as the motor is actually in place of the torque converter so in lower gears it is spinning faster.

It by nature probably has all the auto-stop-start - how often does the engine go quiet?

Pretty often if you're farting around town on flat ground. Even with the AC cranked the engine doesn't need to run. The AC compressor is electric. The only thing that is engine driven looks to be a water pump. (And it has a stupid stretch belt).

Can you put an egg under your foot and creep down the street?

Yes, I can mostly make it out of my subdivision (slightly uphill) and once I am headed towards home (slightly downhill) I'm all electric.

Have you played with the 120vac output yet for camper air?

Yes, yes I have.

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I’m betting it’s a very similar system, just larger, as the hybrid Tacoma.

Haven't done a lot of reading on the Toyota system for their RWD/4WD platforms. The Ford system is 'simply' (yea right, its complex as all getout) a Motor Generator unit in place of the torque converter with a multiplate clutch controlling the connection to the ICE. At least that's how I understand it at the moment.
 
Interesting, I have a 2019 with the 2.7 (Non PowerBoost, of course) that is 2WD with rear lockers and I kinda wish I had 4x4, just in case

Only one time did I get sort of stuck, but of course I was running 6 year old stock tires which were terrible. Just got some Continental TerrainContact A/T tires which seem much better

I know, I'm in the minority with it,

Ford has done terrible things to their lineup lately.

The 2.7 can't be had with any kind of beefy towing package. 820/8200 lbs is just about all you get. They used to have a Heavy Duty Payload Package for it that would let you tow over 10k with it. Now it is neutered. You also can't spec tow mirrors on a 2.7 truck.

You can't get the 3.5, arguably their most powerful engine, in the 'max tow' configuration. You have to get a 5.0 for that. I'm sure people in Denver love that.

Powerboost is 4x4 only.

There's plenty of other stupidity to go around. I'm sure they have the data to back up the decisions and it makes for a more streamlined product line offering. That doesn't mean I can't complain about it and be whiney though.
 
I really thought the 2.7 would be the better engine for this configuration than the 3.5. It’s not like the 2.7 is lacking in power, and IMO the stiffed iron/carbon block would be the stronger material. Otoh, the 3.5 would make sense if it can go into Adkins (?) cycle.

@ctechbob - everything you said above is same answer as the Toyota system, except maybe the water pump. I need to look that up. It might be the same too. 8 speed trans with a motor/gen in place of the TC, and it uses multiplate clutches to handle engagement.

Your MPG is incredible. I hover at 23.8-23.9, in a smaller truck, 5300 lbs curb weight.
 
I really thought the 2.7 would be the better engine for this configuration than the 3.5. It’s not like the 2.7 is lacking in power, and IMO the stiffed iron/carbon block would be the stronger material. Otoh, the 3.5 would make sense if it can go into Adkins (?) cycle.

@ctechbob - everything you said above is same answer as the Toyota system, except maybe the water pump. I need to look that up. It might be the same too. 8 speed trans with a motor/gen in place of the TC, and it uses multiplate clutches to handle engagement.

Your MPG is incredible. I hover at 23.8-23.9, in a smaller truck, 5300 lbs curb weight.

I agree. 2.7 or even the 2.3 with a bit bigger battery/stronger MG unit could really be something for those that wanted even better efficiency.

As for the water pump, I suspect there is an additional one somewhere in addition to the engine driven one, haven't gotten that far in the learning yet.

To be fair, that MPG was me driving like a total adult, not really the way I would want to drive. Since I do the same exact drive to and from work, I'll have lots of opportunities to try the different modes and different driving styles to see what shakes out.

But holy crap does this thing move when you want to get busy with it. Coming home from camping this weekend I had the opportunity to pull out and pass a semi that was going 35 in a 55, pedal to the plastic the truck/camper just rocketed on by the semi. Its so smooth that when I looked down we were doing 70 in no time, uphill even.
 
You sure about those numbers?

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I stand corrected. I might have been thinking about something else.

Ohh, I know what I was thinking.

The 3.73 axle 'Max Tow' is only for the 5.0, the 3.5 hits its 13k+ with the 3.55 axle and non 'max tow'. (Except, does it?)

But then they say in the towing guide you have to have the 'optional Max Tow Axle'....which is a 3.73. Go figure. Ford doing Ford things.

(The last two lines before the 3.73 Tremor Package.)

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Little real-world update. Driving back and forth to work that is some stop and go, several hills, some 55mph country road with several stop signs, about 15 miles total, and then a run in to town doing 75 for about 10 miles on the interstate. Driving in ECO mode like a grown-up and trying to maximize electric use.

Math works out to 24.6 mpg. Not bad for a fullsize truck.

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