Nobody checks oil level on the ramp. Not sure if being sarcastic..
2025 Toyota Rav4 personal engine oil struggle.
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Well you specified on ramps, so I was just clarifying.
I had the oil and filter changed today on my 2025 Toyota Rav4 2.5L non-hybrid. I decided on Mobil 1 0w-30 ESP, a 300 mL can of Liqui Moly MoS2 Anti-Friction Treatment, part number 2009, and a Baldwin B33 oil filter. 2,229 miles on the odometer. I started this post on 3/1/2025. Anyhow, I studied all kinds of oils and viscosities, had discussions and back and forth e-mails with my local Toyota dealer and Toyota Corporate, and tortured you guys here on Bitog. I finally zeroed in on three different oils. In the end, my frugalness took over. I could get the Mobil 1 ESP 0w-30 at my local Walmart for around $5.50 a quart, in the 5-quart jug, about $4.00 a quart less than the other two I was considering. The other two were Liqui Moly Top Tech 4210 0w-30 and Motul 8100 X-Clean+ EFE 0w-30. These are all three good oils and would be proud to wear a baseball cap advertising any of them! Take Care friends.
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I don't think anyone here would recommend oil additives. Interesting choice. Why did you select an oil additive? What part of the M1 ESP formulation did you think the engineers and chemists at ExxonMobil missed?
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Anyone else? Doesn’t he beat the snot out of his car?
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Now I know what I was doing wrong
Well, good question. I knew I would catch h_ll here on Bitog for adding it. It really did work for me in the past, actually did exactly what it said it would on the literature, and possibly be the only mechanic in a can that actually helped me. That helped me with my 2015 Honda CRV I traded in on this Rav4. I wrote about that on here a couple times and I don't want to write the whole story all over again. It may not help anything but probably won't hurt that much either. I understand Mobil already uses a higher quality moly in their oils already. If this Toyota ever loses voltage to the water pump it will OVERHEAT FAST. If it happens to me, maybe it will help, maybe it won't.
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I am not knocking Mobil 1 engineers at all. I chose their oil over several of their really good competitors. The MoS2 additive saved me about $800.00 in an estimated repair that I have already wrote all about on 2-3 times on Bitog already. It actually works; it does good stuff and does what it says. I figure using it won't do much, if any damage and could possibly help. Yes, it obviously screws with the chemistry a little. I guess if we want to blame somebody for my willingness to take the risk of using this additive on a brand-new car, lets blame Liqui Moly for selling something that actually works as it says and saved me a few hundred dollars in the past! I have used it in everything since. If they made a MoS2 joint juice for my crippled up arthritic old joints, I'd drink it. Take Care tired
How did the additive save you a repair? Can you link to your description?
Leave me out of this.
I accidently hit the wrong key on my keyboard Sheriff. The whole story about my previous Honda CRV and how The Mos2 helped me is written on here somewhere 2-3 times.
Don't be shocked when 0 people search all of the forum to find your post. Shouldn't be too hard to link to it.
Realistically, without a double blind fleet if identical cars, probably impossible to know for sure...
FWIW: On my '95 Tacoma from ~125k to 350k I did oil and filter about every 4 months / 8k using an OEM filter, Mobil-1 5w-30 and BG MOA (Stopped due mainly the price of MOA rose higher than I was willing to spend). Anyway, that thing ran like a charm all the way to 379k when I traded it in. Did the MOA make the difference? Who knows. But, to speak my truth, I think I probably would have been better off putting the ~$10 every 4 months or so into my 401k and looking back I wish I did.
For just a little more than the cost of an oil change with M1 ESP and the Liqui Moly MoS2, you could use HPL.
I don't know how to link this to that or whatever tired, I am lucky to be able how to turn my pc on.
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