2024 Subaru WRX TR

[ammolab]

The owners manual suggest 0w20, 50% thicker (m1 esp 0w30) should be sufficient even for track if his oil temps are controlled.
likely the brakes will be the limiting factor by far.. without upgrades.

But in this case the differences between 0w30 esp and 0w40 esp are fairly small.

the 0w40 hths is 3.8 vs 0w30 greater than 3.5
13.8cst@100c vs 12cst@100c

So in reference to these 2 oils I'd say throw a dart or whatever floats the OP's boat.

The WRX calls for 0W-20? Strange, as my wife’s 2024 Outback XT turbo requires 5W-30.

 

[thelazyhero]

I would just get the tune. If you are tracking it, there is a good chance that is considered abuse and kicks it out of warranty anyways. At least that seems like Toyota's approach with GR86 thus far

No Subaru. They've come out to events like WickedBigMeet and said track/auto-x is not abuse as long as you're not money-shifting.

 

[thelazyhero]

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[thelazyhero]

Nice ride and congrats.

With 2k miles on it, I’m not sure why you haven’t changed the original fill. I would dump it asap.

Swapped out initial FF at 995 miles. This was my 2nd oil change at 3032 miles.

On track, oils that are Porsche A40 or C40 approved. So X4.

As for brakes, he has Brembo set up. Only thing he needs is better fluid (Motul RBF 660 or 700, Endless, ATE TYP200), and track/racing pads. He is good with caliper/rotor set up.

Indeed. Thank you. I actually put in Castrol SRF. Stupid pricey so I might drop back down to Motul RBF 660 but at the same time, I feel like I can maybe eek out a longer session or a short track day.

I miss the ATE BLUE days.

Nice! The Brembos are just what the WRX needed.

I bought a 2016 WRX new and owned it for 3 years. No track use, but drove it pretty hard in the mountains and on backroads.

The brakes were wholly inadequate for the speeds and cornering ability it was capable of.

Really enjoyed the flat cornering ability and planted feel of the low center of gravity. There really is something to the longitudinal flat four and AWD. Really excellent balance.

Sold it when I got married back in 2020. Perfect, 43,000 mile, non-modified example. The kid couldn’t drive stick when he bought it. He ended up modding it, then totaling it.

I missed having a fun, turbo, manual car, so I got an Elantra N a year ago and I’ve really loved it. Even has room for 3 child safety seats across the back (we have 4 kiddos under 5). The 2, 3, and 4 year old love riding in it. They say “its fast”, lol.

I’ve been using M1 ESP 0W-30 at 5000 mi intervals. Recently did the first change of the gearbox oil and went with Red Line Oil MTL. I think it improved feel a bit.

Love the car! Would enjoy hearing more of your thoughts on it.

Where are you located?
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I'm in the NNJ area. The Elentra N was actually on my list when I was shopping for the car. Only issue was that I wanted to finance and the 6.5x% interest turned me off. Especially when Subaru was offering 0.9% for 72 months. The other was the CTR but MSRP mark-up was stupid at the time.

As for the WRX, I love it. I'm still getting used to the handling mechanics on the track but after I stiffened it up a little bit, its gotten flatter.

The WRX calls for 0W-20? Strange, as my wife’s 2024 Outback XT turbo requires 5W-30.

That is incorrect. It calls for 0W-20. It has the option for 5W-30 but it recommends 0W-20. I have a 2025 Outback XT as well.

 

[john_pifer]

I hope you end up deciding to tune it!

I have heard that the 2.4 L engine has crazy potential. Since it is way understressed in stock form.

 

[PF52]

I bought a 2016 WRX new and owned it for 3 years.

The brakes were wholly inadequate for the speeds and cornering ability it was capable of.

Same with my '21. I really need to do my research and find some kind of better pads for it, or something. I wish I had the Brembos.

 

[edyvw]

Swapped out initial FF at 995 miles. This was my 2nd oil change at 3032 miles.


Indeed. Thank you. I actually put in Castrol SRF. Stupid pricey so I might drop back down to Motul RBF 660 but at the same time, I feel like I can maybe eek out a longer session or a short track day.

I miss the ATE BLUE days.

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I'm in the NNJ area. The Elentra N was actually on my list when I was shopping for the car. Only issue was that I wanted to finance and the 6.5x% interest turned me off. Especially when Subaru was offering 0.9% for 72 months. The other was the CTR but MSRP mark-up was stupid at the time.

As for the WRX, I love it. I'm still getting used to the handling mechanics on the track but after I stiffened it up a little bit, its gotten flatter.


That is incorrect. It calls for 0W-20. It has the option for 5W-30 but it recommends 0W-20. I have a 2025 Outback XT as well.

SRF is good, but I personally don’t like the fact that it is a hydrophobic fluid. If you don't flush it properly, it can create an air pocket easily. That ATE Blue is now TYP200. I used it on track, works excellent.

 

[john_pifer]

SRF is good, but I personally don’t like the fact that it is a hydrophobic fluid. If you don't flush it properly, it can create an air pocket easily. That ATE Blue is now TYP200. I used it on track, works excellent.

Hydrophobic or hygroscopic?

 

[john_pifer]

Same with my '21. I really need to do my research and find some kind of better pads for it, or something. I wish I had the Brembos.

Should be able to directly swap on some Brembos from an STi, no?

 

[PF52]

Should be able to directly swap on some Brembos from an STi, no?

Well, I think so, but I'm not 100% certain. There are vendors selling them I just need to be sure I get the right ones.

 

[john_pifer]

Well, I think so, but I'm not 100% certain. There are vendors selling them I just need to be sure I get the right ones.

I’d call one of those vendors or check their site. Should be able to give you all the info you need.

I’m not sure what wheels you have, but if you have the 17 inch wheels, it’s possible that those brakes may not fit. You may need to get larger wheels for clearance.

 

[Rand]

The WRX calls for 0W-20? Strange, as my wife’s 2024 Outback XT turbo requires 5W-30.

0w20.

2024 outback owners manual. the 2.4T engine is also 0w20.

This is the 2024 wrx manual

 

[altaylar]

0w20.

2024 outback owners manual. the 2.4T engine is also 0w20.
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This is the 2024 wrx manual
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Interesting, 0w20 SYNTHETIC or 5w30 CONVENTIONAL.
I wonder why not 5w30 synthetic

 

[Rand]

Interesting, 0w20 SYNTHETIC or 5w30 CONVENTIONAL.
I wonder why not 5w30 synthetic

because their manual is a joke it also states you can use 0w20 conventional if syn is unavailable....
5w30 conventional for replenishment.

Its basically poorly translated for EPA they must recommend 0w20 to get the sticker fuel economy

 

[altaylar]

because their manual is a joke it also states you can use 0w20 conventional if syn is unavailable....
5w30 conventional for replenishment.

Its basically poorly translated for EPA they must recommend 0w20 to get the sticker fuel economy

Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking maybe there is some super smart reasoning behind it that I am missing

Going back to the OP's post. Its a gorgeous car, and these are a blast on track if you like the package they offer.

 

[thelazyhero]

Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking maybe there is some super smart reasoning behind it that I am missing

Going back to the OP's post. Its a gorgeous car, and these are a blast on track if you like the package they offer.

It's has some changes, cosmetic and internal. I decided a little while back to turn this into the JDM equivalent car. It has full JDM bolt-ons they don't offer here in the US including the lower control arms and tie rods (they call them lateral link set), short shift, draw stiffeners, mounts, etc. Hell, I even bought STi exhaust hangers for when I change out the exhaust with the biggest waste being the internal lights and headrests as purely cosmetic. I've just been slowly trying to turn it into the JDM STi Sport# model though my biggest hurdle is trying to source that flexible tower bar as I only have the regular STi one. ALL that said, I do track the car. It's been an absolute blast and just need actual coilovers to stay completely flat on high speed corners. I even got the STi filter.

SRF is good, but I personally don’t like the fact that it is a hydrophobic fluid. If you don't flush it properly, it can create an air pocket easily. That ATE Blue is now TYP200. I used it on track, works excellent.

I know the TYPE200 is good but I miss the blue color in general as they made it so easy to go back and forth between the gold one to see when to stop bleeding as new fluid is in. Also obligatory engine bay filter.

Also I know this is going to cause some contention so I'll say it up front. I know its not an STi. They sell these cars as a STi trim level like they do with the M badging on non dedicated M cars. You could hate it all you want but I'm just going to enjoy the car and that's all there is to it. I've been trying to get my hands on an S209 for a while now if it came to around $50k as a collectors car but until then, I'm just going to enjoy the car. If they offered the S210 here, I'd buy that too, even when it comes with their dumb CVT rebadged as SPT. I've owned Subarus for 10+ years now. >.<

 

[edyvw]

It's has some changes, cosmetic and internal. I decided a little while back to turn this into the JDM equivalent car. It has full JDM bolt-ons they don't offer here in the US including the lower control arms and tie rods (they call them lateral link set), short shift, draw stiffeners, mounts, etc. Hell, I even bought STi exhaust hangers for when I change out the exhaust with the biggest waste being the internal lights and headrests as purely cosmetic. I've just been slowly trying to turn it into the JDM STi Sport# model though my biggest hurdle is trying to source that flexible tower bar as I only have the regular STi one. ALL that said, I do track the car. It's been an absolute blast and just need actual coilovers to stay completely flat on high speed corners. I even got the STi filter.


I know the TYPE200 is good but I miss the blue color in general as they made it so easy to go back and forth between the gold one to see when to stop bleeding as new fluid is in. Also obligatory engine bay filter.

Also I know this is going to cause some contention so I'll say it up front. I know its not an STi. They sell these cars as a STi trim level like they do with the M badging on non dedicated M cars. You could hate it all you want but I'm just going to enjoy the car and that's all there is to it. I've been trying to get my hands on an S209 for a while now if it came to around $50k as a collectors car but until then, I'm just going to enjoy the car. If they offered the S210 here, I'd buy that too, even when it comes with their dumb CVT rebadged as SPT. I've owned Subarus for 10+ years now. >.<

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They made big mistake not having STi and with CVT. The sales dropped big time. Instead of using opportunity to fill the vacuum others are leaving by discontinuing manuals, they offered some ridiculous packages.
I think for what it is is good car. Price is pushing it though.