2024 Land Cruiser ... Who would buy this?

[burbguy82]

I've long said I'd buy a 70 series Landcruiser, if I could buy one here. Yes, I can buy a 25+ year old Landcruiser from another country, but I would want it to be left hand drive, and either a 76 series wagon, or Troop Carrier. I've driven an imported 25+ year old Troop Carrier with right hand drive, and I didn't care for it on our roads.

This one is of course brand new, but made to look like the old ones. A diesel v8, which is cool maybe, and a snorkel. It seems that this one is "the proper" LHD, which is interesting. Maybe it is just the photo, not sure.

I emailed the guy in Dubai to see how much it would be, ready for the sticker shock.

I also like the rolled lip bed, very nice touch.

 

[burbguy82]

The EPA hates us.

 

[earlyre]

Huh???

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i wondered if anyone else clocked that....

 

[earlyre]

This one is of course brand new, but made to look like the old ones. A diesel v8, which is cool maybe, and a snorkel. It seems that this one is "the proper" LHD, which is interesting. Maybe it is just the photo, not sure.

I emailed the guy in Dubai to see how much it would be, ready for the sticker shock.

I also like the rolled lip bed, very nice touch.

just remember, as a 2024 model (that's not for sale in the US), it won't be legal to import for road use in the US until 2049...

 

[02SE]

This one is of course brand new, but made to look like the old ones. A diesel v8, which is cool maybe, and a snorkel. It seems that this one is "the proper" LHD, which is interesting. Maybe it is just the photo, not sure.

I emailed the guy in Dubai to see how much it would be, ready for the sticker shock.

I also like the rolled lip bed, very nice touch.

Yes, I know it's new. Believe me, I've looked into this extensively. It can't meet our emissions or crash safety regulations. I ride Motorcycles more than I drive, so obviously crash safety is not my top priority. But .Gov wants to protect us from ourselves. I can feel the love...

There ARE markets such as the UAE, some countries in South America, etc. who get left-hand drive. If I had a Mine claim, I could buy one from a Canadian company who imports and outfits them for Mine duty. I've looked into that too.

 

[burbguy82]

I can feel the love...

you can say that again

Canadian company who imports and outfits them for Mine duty. I've looked into that too.

hmmm, i suppose it has to be non usa huh.

 

[burbguy82]

With the proper accessories it would make a cool NSTV.


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The PKM would be nice for sure. I love the front mounted security rope. Very common.

 

[KrisZ]

Cheap trucks are like cheap cars, very few people really want them. And people that like to reminisce in the "good old days" tend to only remember the good times they had with their simple vehicles, not the bad, like terrible road manners, road noise, lack of power, etc.

That thing likely has manners and NVH similar to a tractor. I bet people would love it.

 

[edyvw]

Cheap trucks are like cheap cars, very few people really want them. And people that like to reminisce in the "good old days" tend to only remember the good times they had with their simple vehicles, not the bad, like terrible road manners, road noise, lack of power, etc.

That thing likely has manners and NVH similar to a tractor. I bet people would love it.

Man I remember those LC's NATO had when I worked for them. I think it was 70 series. Naturally aspirated diesel engine. Man, when you ride that thing you need to prepay for spine adjustment that is definitely coming later in your life.

 

[M1Accord]

i wondered if anyone else clocked that....

I saw that and couched it as either a third-tier English level sale department as new vehicle would either be a Toyota product or it is a Frankenstein aftermarket.

Personally, I would buy it for under $40k since it would be how much I would be willing to pay for a new Taco 4WD with full 4 door for 4ish passenger.

 

[ATex7239]

Cheap trucks are like cheap cars, very few people really want them. And people that like to reminisce in the "good old days" tend to only remember the good times they had with their simple vehicles, not the bad, like terrible road manners, road noise, lack of power, etc.

That thing likely has manners and NVH similar to a tractor. I bet people would love it.

+1

It is rosy retrospection at its finest.

 

[Escape08]

2024 Land Cruiser looks like a Ford Bronco and a Ford Bronco looked like a Land Rover Defender
https://www.toyotaofkaty.com/vehicle/New/2024/Toyota/Land-Cruiser/JTEABFAJ7RK013785/?store=42284&campaign=performance_max_vehicle_ads_|_new&campaignid=21339709635&adgroupid=&creative=&matchtype=&network=x&device=c&keyword=JTEABFAJ7RK013785&placement=&target=&loc_physical_ms=9027599&loc_interest_ms=1026209&dealervendor=clickheredigital&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0aS3BhA3EiwAKaD2ZYaqpKTIUApY3x4wvCTB1TCm2zmpxDd8CcdaXTtA9s1o5uxJXQ6uQBoC-9EQAvD_BwE

 

[bonjo]

I like the model because it is still basic & simple without all the drive aids electronics.
I would question the V8 diesel as I do not think toyota makes one, this could be a transplant.
To my knowledge the only come with 2.8 turbo 4 cylinder althought V8 petrol may be available in some markets.
Personnaly I do not care for flat bed trucks, prefer the full body version.
The intake pipe is to reduce dust intake and is not a snorkel

 

[97prizm]

You will never see cheap pickups here unless people stop buying enough luxury pickups for the automakers to make profits. C19 shifted the balance of power to the manufacturers and now consumers have just eaten up anything handed to them.

Ram is supposedly coming out with a maveric competitor. We'll see how cheap it is.

 

[M1Accord]

Ram is supposedly coming out with a maveric competitor. We'll see how cheap it is.

Is Maverick reliable? It has a 50% markup in my market. No thanks.

 

[97prizm]

Is Maverick reliable? It has a 50% markup in my market. No thanks.

I haven't seen anything to say the Maverick isn't reliable. If Dodge or Stellantis is smart they'll price their small truck under the maverick or offer a no frills model. The problem is that at least in the USA I don't think you could build or sell a base manual transmission model with no Carpet and no frills. The Nissan Navarra Warrior still has the optional manual transmission in Australia. Not sure of your market but many markets are seeing a softening on new vehicle prices.

 

[02SE]

I like the model because it is still basic & simple without all the drive aids electronics.
I would question the V8 diesel as I do not think toyota makes one, this could be a transplant.
To my knowledge the only come with 2.8 turbo 4 cylinder althought V8 petrol may be available in some markets.
Personnaly I do not care for flat bed trucks, prefer the full body version.
The intake pipe is to reduce dust intake and is not a snorkel

Toyota DOES make the 1VD-FTV V8 Diesel with either single or twin-turbos, depending on application, and where in the world it's being sold. In the 70 series Landcruiser, they had to widen the front track to accommodate the width of the engine. The issue with that is they didn't widen the rear to match, so the rear track is slightly narrower. That can present handling issues in sand or when driving in ruts. There are aftermarket solutions to widen the rear axle (track).





The Canadian company I mentioned earlier in the thread imports left-hand drive 70 series Landcruisers and outfits them strictly for Mine use. According to the company, their clients have tried the more readily available alternatives. Think Ford, Chevy and RAM trucks for Mine use. They simply do not hold up as well to the abuse, so they generally stick to outfitting these 70 series Landcruisers.

I found a video talking about this:

 

[wemay]

I know all these companies have focus groups and crunch the numbers on if something will well in specific regions, but i'm of the opinion that something like this would sell very well in the US. It would automatically shoot up to the top of my list for a small work truck if, of course, it passed all the safety requirements.

 

[PF52]

The problem is that at least in the USA I don't think you could build or sell a base manual transmission model with no Carpet and no frills.

Other than the dozen or so folks here constantly pining for such a vehicle, I doubt many others would buy them.

 

[97prizm]

The EPA hates us.

The requiring of certification of every engine, drive wheels, and transmission combination doesn't help. This is why when sales of a certain models etc fall below 10 percent it usually gets axed. This and maybe other reasons is why Elio bit the dust. Paul Elio said that "They plan on engineering and manufacturing their own 3 cylinder engine from scratch. " BMW, GM, and at the time Ford have 3 cylinder engines that are epa certified. To design their own is financial suicide.