OEM Toyota or Fram Toughguard? Similar price, the Fram has better filtering numbers.
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Both are fine; I have moved on to Toyota oil filters as a local dealership sell them for like $5.
I run them for 2 5K OCIs.
I run them for 2 5K OCIs.
Really doesn't matter unless you're running long OCI's. I run OEM sometimes, sometimes I don't. I only go 5K per OCI, so doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. My .02.
Somtimes that is hard to do, My 2006 Yaris had a Toyota filter from Japan and the Dealer parts counter were paper filters from Thailand.
The O.E. Japan filter was a thick foam media (similar to what you could get in the U.S. from a Lexus parts dept.) I wouldn't care about a filter, but the engine was "ready to blow" noisy with the Thailand filter. I rinsed and put the OE filter back on and it was back to it's normal, quiet self.
Still a mystery. Repeated this scenario until I found it ran well on a budget Champ labs STP unit (this was before E core)
Had a similar issue with our 2005 Rav 4. Denso Thailand must have fixed the "problem" other wise guys on this forum running parts counter Toyota filters would be reporting issues.
Agreed. More so since the car is still under warranty.
That sounds like a nightmare.
I've been driving Hondas in recent years. There was some concern when the oil filter supplier for OEM changed from Filtech to something else. Then, there was talk on the Internet about OEM Made in Japan filters. I bought a case of the OEM Made in Japan filters. They seem to be good, but I haven't cut them open and done my own testing.
The decline in quality in Japanese products is depressing, but one does one's best. I wouldn't buy Fram or other after-market filters.
I tend to think this is overthought. Cabs used to go to high miles on 3k OCI's on whatever was cheapest. Changed often (like a 5k OCI) and just what is the oil filter being asked to do? Maybe on a 10k or 20k it really would matter--haven't tried that in a long time.
I just order a case of OEM's when I run low. And the crush washer too.
I just order a case of OEM's when I run low. And the crush washer too.
The oil filter is asked to do a number of things., I'm no expert, but the filter has to clean the oil of various kinds of matter, it has to maintain a flow rate and it has to retain oil upon shutting down the engine. The oil filter is not a part of the system where you want to have a failure and induce oil starvation in the engine.
They have bypass valves--if they plug up (or oil is very thick and very high pressure ensues, like on cold start in cold areas with not so thin oil), they go into bypass. No starving.
An anti-drainback valve is something else, needed on sideways filters, so as to prevent draining on cold start. Now that may make a difference--if the filter is sideways. On these engines it might.
As long as it works. If the bypass valve is cheaply or incorrectly constructed to save costs and increase profit, maybe it won't work.
Boeing airplanes used to fly pretty safely. Then, the company decided to save cost on safety measures in order to increase profits. After that, a door plug blew out. Why would I buy a Fram filter when Fram is under no obligation to meet OEM specs?
Fair enough.
Still not worried. I've yet to cut open a filter of mine that was loaded with material, with the exception of the one engine that is eating itself. Short OCI's for me, "oil is cheap" and all. And I have less cold starts than I used to have.
But I suppose I've never done an analysis as to how well a used oil filter flows, so there's that. Maybe it's loading up a microscopic level? don't really care, I don't drive past 200k anyhow, not is my driving habits likely to change any time soon (suddenly driving in dusty areas, what have you).
The YZZ filters from the dealer are likely no better than Fram 
N1’s are inexpensive and always solid with C & P results. No issue with Fram, used them for many years, but quality is all over the map these days comparatively.
This is the thinking that has caused more trouble for car and motorcycle owners than anything else. People don't want to take care of their cars. They want to save money.
But I respect anyone who makes this choice. Money is money. In my case, I'm a car guy, so money spent on my car is money well-spent.
It’s a depreciating asset at best and a financial liability at worst. I want them to last awhile but don’t want to spend on them unnecessarily. OEM equipment and specified fluids can certainly achieve that harmony in most situations.
I don’t really view it like that. But do what makes you happy.Nah, it's not a financial asset. It's a device that makes me happy when I use it.
