2022 Silverado ZR2
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6.2 LOL
glacial acceleration for almost trx money
glacial acceleration for almost trx money
This is my dream truck for a half ton. N/A 6.2 and spool valve shocks. There is no need for TRX power and this should be more economical.
I think i will need to stick to the heavy duties when i get around to buying a new truck, but i will wish it was this.
I think i will need to stick to the heavy duties when i get around to buying a new truck, but i will wish it was this.
That's what I'm thinking. Solid motor, great shocks and 10 speed auto. No need for TRX/Raptor clones.
if I am dropping $65k on this truck I can drop $70k on a TRX(assuming you can find one for msrp someday) or 66k for a raptor. If I am dropping 70k on a TRX then who cars what the MPG’s are, and I bet a raptor would get similar mpg’s to this thing with the Ecoboost.
i think this needs to be
but I agree, its a cool truck.
i think this needs to be
but I agree, its a cool truck.
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“we took the trail boss put some cool shocks on it and painted the tow hooks red”
or you could set the cruise control to 118mph in your trx and still recover most of your money after the market goes back to normal. the hellcat engine is a platform that will continue to have interested buyers for many years to come
or you could set the cruise control to 118mph in your trx and still recover most of your money after the market goes back to normal. the hellcat engine is a platform that will continue to have interested buyers for many years to come
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JHZR2
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I think I’ll keep my real ZR2 and my 96 Ram….
You are correct about this needing to be priced well. It has to be significantly cheaper than a TRX.
So a zero to 60 in the sub 6 second range and a quarter mile in the 14 second range for a full size off road truck is "glacial" now? are we that spoiled now by hellcat engines?
The TRX will have what a second 0-60 and 2 seconds in the quarter over a 6.2 GM? I could wait a second or two and enjoy far better fuel economy.
I had a 2016 6.2 lifted in 35" tires and it could spin them on asphault. A satisfying level of power. More is always nice but where do you draw the line? At some point your in a Model S Plaid just going stupid illegal speeds instantly.
I doubt that it will be "far better fuel economy" with the 6.2 over the much better hellcat motor. Spinning 35" tires on asphalt with a 6.2? Was it just a "bark"? lol
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You guys know the price difference in these vehicles ? (Or cost of ownership)
Too bad that front end is still uglier than sin.
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Kinda reminds me of when the 2nd gen Lightning came out. Dodge's answer was the SRT-10, GM's was a sticker package that said "Thunder" (my aunt, who was a Chevy nut had one).
Seems long gone are the days where something like the 454SS is produced to answer what's being churned out by the competition
Which is odd. GM clearly has the engines available, just look at the 'vette and Camaro.
Seems long gone are the days where something like the 454SS is produced to answer what's being churned out by the competition
Which is odd. GM clearly has the engines available, just look at the 'vette and Camaro.You could not floor the pedal from a stop light. It would spin and engage traction control. You had to be a bit careful applying the throttle. This was with the 8 speed, the heavier 2016 chassis, and about 200lb added from my expensive BDS lift and diamondback tonneau cover. Pulling out of a gas station or something where your wheels are not straight the wheel spin was easy at part throttle. The engine sounded amazing and felt like it had great power. The fuel economy was also very good for what it was. On a good day at 70 mph you could get an honest 20 mpg. This is with the 35 12.50 20 michelin tires. lift, and a black bear ECU tune for the tire size and whatever else they do for a stock tune on them.
So from my ownership experience (69k-79k miles) i can say that the gen V 6.2 is a fantastic performer and very efficient.
Now why would the Hellcat TRX get way worse MPG?
1. Hellcat is Port Injected and 9.5:1 compression. The N/A L87 6.2 comes in at 11.5:1 with direct injection resulting in greater efficiency.
2. Supercharger creates some drag. In the most fair comparison, GM LT4 vs LT1 engines, the LT4 gives up 4 MPG combined in the Camaro 10 speed platform. Even with 5.7 and 6.4 N/A RAM VS GM comparisons the GM small blocks usually win by 1-2 mpg.
3. TRX is REALLY BEEFY in construction, frame, ect. It weighs around 1,000lbs more than a typical GM and ford half ton.
4. GM is 10 speeds vs 8 speeds in the ram, this might not add up to much at all but something of a fuel save.
5. No cylinder deactivation, i see this as a huge pro to the Hellcat for durability but in gas mileage terms its a penalty. If i was on a flat level road at 35-40 mph in the 2016 6.2, it would go V4 and produce 35+ mpg real time fuel economy readings. At 3.1 liters and low enough speeds that drag wasn't a big deal, i believe it. The computer MPG was always very close to hand calculated at least on my truck.
6. Overall Power of the TRX, as you floor a 700hp engine it will burn a lot more fuel than a 420hp one. Being more fun and literally faster you are much more likely to over acccelerate and hit brakes more.
Anectodally, many people have reported bad MPG in the TRX and nobody is surprised.
So it would be very interesting to have a direct long distance comparison between the TRX and this new ZR2 but my guess is the GM would beat it by about 25%. 10 city hellcat vs 12.5 city ZR2. If the hellcat is getting 14 highway the ZR2 might get 17.5 right next to it at the same speed. Just my guesses as to what a real world side by side might be.
While i am pulling numbers out of my [hat] lets suppose two people buy the trucks and own them for exactly 100k miles doing the same driving. Some city, highway, towing, desert fun and offroading, and my 25% estimate is accurate. Assigning a lifetime average to a TRX might be 12 MPG and 15 mpg for the ZR2. 8333 gallons in the TRX, lets say $4 a gallon lifetime average price gets you to $33,333. If the ZR2 can average 15 in the same use thats only 6666 gallons $26,666 dollars. That is between 6 and 7 grand per 100k miles of use, not a huge deal for someone affording a new expensive truck, but its something.
TRX may never reach sitting on the lot for sale with a discount to MSRP status but the Silverado will. If the TRX stays low volume and hard to buy for less than 120k then all this discussion is useless.
Cost and MPG aside, the TRX will be the best truck at a few things. 1. Desert running, obviously, it is the king. 2. Being cool/showy/fast.
The ZR2 will exceed at being a well rounded vehicle that can offroad well and low and moderate speeds. It will be a truck you will use for everything and not need to be so concerned about it being collectible or rare or anything like that.
It comes down to, are you buying a toy or a well rounded vehicle? I think outside of a some fun romps in the dirt and possibly getting some tickets on the street the fun factor of the TRX will wear off and you'll just be hauling the extra weight and pumping the extra gas. The real winners here are those who originally ordered the TRX, had their fun, and flipped it into this crazy market.
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The one a guy sank was $90k right ?
https://www.thedrive.com/news/41996...eir-702-hp-super-truck-at-texas-off-road-park
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You’d have to be mental to buy a used one without knowing how it was treated …
Another link shows a guy trashed the trans when an oil line gave way
