2022 Nissan Titan - Fluid recommendations?

[tenx82]

Just picked up a 2022 Nissan Titan K/C S 4x4 as my new daily driver. Looking for some maintenance product recommendations.

This was previously a rental truck and has almost 58k miles on it.
The Carfax at least shows somewhat regular oil changes, ranging from 5k to 9k intervals, but not much else.

My first thought, being that it's a GDI engine, is to grab some Seafoam SS14. I've had positive results with it in the past, but if there's something better to use, I'm all ears.

Second thought is to flush/replace the other fluids (trans, diffs, coolant, brakes). There are no records of servicing on any of these, and being a previous rental, I'm assuming it's been used for towing and wasn't always driven nicely.

Any suggestions on what specifics fluids to use would be appreciated. Manual specs the following (or equivalent):
Engine: 0w20 GF-6 SP
Trans: Nissan "Matic-P"
Diff: GL-5 75w-85
T-case: Nissan ATF D3M
Coolant: Nissan 'Long Life' (blue)

I don't drive a whole lot, typically only about 7-8k miles per year, but I do remote start in winters and make quite a few short trips, so I tend to do maintenance at 6 month intervals rather than specific mileage.

 

[JavierH19]

I believe the 9 speed is Mercedes licensed but built by jatco. I imagine it uses the same fluid since.

 

[Elkins45]

I have a 17 Titan. Because it was still under warranty at the time I had the dealer do the transmission and transfer case with the Nissan fluids. That was partly because of warranty and partly because the transmission doesn't have a dipstick so you have to do some sort of voodoo to fill it. It cost $500, but I've since learned the closest Nissan dealer is probably the most expensive one in the free world.

I used NAPA synthetic gear oil (Valvoline) for the diffs and Peak Asian Blue for the coolant. For oil I've been running Mobil1 0w-40 since the warranty expired.

 

[panthermike]

I have a 17 Titan. Because it was still under warranty at the time I had the dealer do the transmission and transfer case with the Nissan fluids. That was partly because of warranty and partly because the transmission doesn't have a dipstick so you have to do some sort of voodoo to fill it. It cost $500, but I've since learned the closest Nissan dealer is probably the most expensive one in the free world.

I used NAPA synthetic gear oil (Valvoline) for the diffs and Peak Asian Blue for the coolant. For oil I've been running Mobil1 0w-40 since the warranty expired.

Yes the Nissan 7spd's are interesting to service. I built my own fill tool using a pesticide jug and a Yamaha adapter; worked beautifully! I also love your suggestion of using 0w40 or 5w30 at least. In my experience, these 5.6 DI's are tough on oil.

As for the OP; absolutely I would change the fluids and try to remove some carbon from the valves at some point (they are prone to carbon buildup).

I believe the Matic-P is an ULV fluid? HPL teal might fit the bill, also a Valvoline ULV, or of course the Nissan stuff(which you might want anyways if still under warranty).

Nice truck!

 

[Bill7]

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Just picked up a 2022 Nissan Titan K/C S 4x4 as my new daily driver. Looking for some maintenance product recommendations.

This was previously a rental truck and has almost 58k miles on it.
The Carfax at least shows somewhat regular oil changes, ranging from 5k to 9k intervals, but not much else.

My first thought, being that it's a GDI engine, is to grab some Seafoam SS14. I've had positive results with it in the past, but if there's something better to use, I'm all ears.

Second thought is to flush/replace the other fluids (trans, diffs, coolant, brakes). There are no records of servicing on any of these, and being a previous rental, I'm assuming it's been used for towing and wasn't always driven nicely.

Any suggestions on what specifics fluids to use would be appreciated. Manual specs the following (or equivalent):
Engine: 0w20 GF-6 SP
Trans: Nissan "Matic-P"
Diff: GL-5 75w-85
T-case: Nissan ATF D3M
Coolant: Nissan 'Long Life' (blue)

I don't drive a whole lot, typically only about 7-8k miles per year, but I do remote start in winters and make quite a few short trips, so I tend to do maintenance at 6 month intervals rather than specific mileage.

If I was in your position, I would do four OCI @ 5k miles each with Valvoline R&P to clean out the engine, and then I would use a high mileage full synthetic to treat the oil seals to prevent future oil leaks (OCI: 5k miles / 6 months whichever comes first),
and attempt to take the trunk to 300k miles over the next 15+ years.

Also, I would do drain/fills of the transmission fluid (with OEM fluid) every 33k miles (works out to 3 ATF drain and fills every 100k miles).

Join forums for that vehicle, learn about its weak points from maintenance perspective. Do preventative maintenance on those.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I doubt you need a new trans filter. I would opt for a place that does trans fluid transfers instead. You can watch the work being done from behind the vehicle and view the color transfer thru clear tubes.

The idea to use 0w40 synthetic oil (SP) is a good one (my opinion).

 

[aba4430]

Nice truck. I have a 23 Pro-4X with ~19K miles; essentially the same drivetrain. Excellent trucks overall. I owned an 18 Pro-4X previously and the experience was fantastic.

For oil, I use Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30; no issues with this including gas mileage. I recently changed my front and rear differentials with Mobil 1 75W-90LS; the Pennzoil and Valvoline GL-5 synthetic equivalents should be fine as well. I have procured some Mobil 1 synthetic transmission fluid for the transfer case but am doing some reading on whether the Nissan D3M is plain old Dexron III/ Mercon and have not changed my transfer case fluid as yet. Cannot go wrong with the Nissan D3M in the transfer case, however as it is the specified fluid. Cannot advise you on the 9 speed tranny fluid as yet, but you cannot go wrong with the Nissan P fluid. There are some fluid equivalents based on the cross references to the Mercedes technology sourced tranny, e.g. LiquiMoly and BG do have fluids. There are Youtube videos also available on the service process. These folks sell the transmission service kit for the 9 speed trannys and may be a good option when you are ready to do the transmission service.

Separately, check your brake fluid and flush/bleed your system if it has not been done. I also recommend checking out Titantalk.com for other general discussions/information about the Titans.

 

[Nessism1]

I would use OEM fluid for the trans and transfer case. The transmission control system is designed around the original fluid, and even slight differences in the fluid can affect operation. It's not worth the risk with using something different.

 

[MrBaumTastic]

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Just picked up a 2022 Nissan Titan K/C S 4x4 as my new daily driver. Looking for some maintenance product recommendations.

This was previously a rental truck and has almost 58k miles on it.
The Carfax at least shows somewhat regular oil changes, ranging from 5k to 9k intervals, but not much else.

My first thought, being that it's a GDI engine, is to grab some Seafoam SS14. I've had positive results with it in the past, but if there's something better to use, I'm all ears.

Second thought is to flush/replace the other fluids (trans, diffs, coolant, brakes). There are no records of servicing on any of these, and being a previous rental, I'm assuming it's been used for towing and wasn't always driven nicely.

Any suggestions on what specifics fluids to use would be appreciated. Manual specs the following (or equivalent):
Engine: 0w20 GF-6 SP
Trans: Nissan "Matic-P"
Diff: GL-5 75w-85
T-case: Nissan ATF D3M
Coolant: Nissan 'Long Life' (blue)

I don't drive a whole lot, typically only about 7-8k miles per year, but I do remote start in winters and make quite a few short trips, so I tend to do maintenance at 6 month intervals rather than specific mileage.

I use BG EPR for my flushes, and just today I tried Liqui Moly Pro-Line Flush. The latter was $22 at my local AZ, but you can get EPR for $16 on Amazon and I just saw a 2-Pack of the LM for $31 there too. With nothing to back up what I'm about to say, I believe the BG cleans better, but it's application takes longer and you have to order it. I usually run at 2000 rpm (vs 1200) for 30 minutes (instead of 20) but the LM is as easy as it gets. Pour entire bottle in crankcase, run 10-15 minutes at idle, drain. I did 20 minutes.

For fuel system cleaners, I've had good results (as in nothing bad happened, because determining any other outcome from just pouring it in and running seems dubious at best) with the following and run them with enthusiasm

Red Line SI-1
Gumout MSTU/AIO
Techron
Royal Purple Max Clean
BG44k (kinda pricey without offering any obvious advantages compared to the others)
Berryman B12 Chemtool (not sure if it has PEA but it's cheap)

In my unscientific, unsubstantiated opinion, any of those, with the exception of maybe Berryman 's B12, are superior by far to SeaFoam.

 

[JTK]

As much as I like Nissan in general, I'd be weary of the ~58K miles of rental use on this one. Not that there's much you can do now, but I'd want to see down the oil fill cap and in the oil drain plug hole with an endoscope cam just to check things out. What was the longest stretch between oil changes per the carfax? The Nissan 5.6L was always an awesome engine when they were port injected. The newer GDI ones IMO, the jury is still out on. I base my opinion on my own dealings with the GDI VQ35DD vs the port injected VQ35DEs I've owned.

Dave's Auto Center on youtube had an interesting video awhile back on I believe a later model Nissan NV3500 with a low mile severely sludged VK56VD due to not changing the oil enough. So bad they had to replace the engine with a good used engine. A replacement engine from Nissan was cost prohibitive and most of the rebuild parts are not available for this version of the 5.6.

I bought an ex-rental 2019 Nissan Pathfinder back in October 2019 with 25K miles on it. It had 2 oil changes per the carfax. Not knowing enough about the VQ35DD at that point, I figured it was no big deal. Today, Nissan forums are littered with sludged and destroyed 35DD stories. They are just not as forgiving as the port injected 3.5's were. On my 2019, I switched from the recommended 0w20 to full synthetic 5w30 and changed oil/filter without fail, every 3500-4000mi from ~25K until 103K and cut open every used filter for examination. The timing chains began their death throws anyway at 103K. As much as the vehicle was good to us, I got rid of it at that point anyway.

Long story short. I would not recommend stretching OCIs beyond 5K miles, even with top quality oil.

Today I own a 2022 Frontier with the VQ38DD and the same Jatco copy of the MB 9G tronic 9spd your titan has. This 3.8L doesn't blacken the engine oil nearly as bad as the pathfinder's 3.5 did, but I still change it every 5K miles anyway. I recently did front and rear diff gear oil changes on my 2022 Frontier and used Supertech 75w90. Super easy to do on these trucks. I'm closing in on 50K miles and will do the T-case in the not so distant future. I plan on waiting to 60K+ to do anything with the "9G-tronic". Lots of youtube videos on them. Not too bad a DIY process should you decide to.

 

[tenx82]

As much as I like Nissan in general, I'd be weary of the ~58K miles of rental use on this one. Not that there's much you can do now, but I'd want to see down the oil fill cap and in the oil drain plug hole with an endoscope cam just to check things out. What was the longest stretch between oil changes per the carfax? The Nissan 5.6L was always an awesome engine when they were port injected. The newer GDI ones IMO, the jury is still out on. I base my opinion on my own dealings with the GDI VQ35DD vs the port injected VQ35DEs I've owned.

Dave's Auto Center on youtube had an interesting video awhile back on I believe a later model Nissan NV3500 with a low mile severely sludged VK56VD due to not changing the oil enough. So bad they had to replace the engine with a good used engine. A replacement engine from Nissan was cost prohibitive and most of the rebuild parts are not available for this version of the 5.6.

I bought an ex-rental 2019 Nissan Pathfinder back in October 2019 with 25K miles on it. It had 2 oil changes per the carfax. Not knowing enough about the VQ35DD at that point, I figured it was no big deal. Today, Nissan forums are littered with sludged and destroyed 35DD stories. They are just not as forgiving as the port injected 3.5's were. On my 2019, I switched from the recommended 0w20 to full synthetic 5w30 and changed oil/filter without fail, every 3500-4000mi from ~25K until 103K and cut open every used filter for examination. The timing chains began their death throws anyway at 103K. As much as the vehicle was good to us, I got rid of it at that point anyway.

Long story short. I would not recommend stretching OCIs beyond 5K miles, even with top quality oil.

Today I own a 2022 Frontier with the VQ38DD and the same Jatco copy of the MB 9G tronic 9spd your titan has. This 3.8L doesn't blacken the engine oil nearly as bad as the pathfinder's 3.5 did, but I still change it every 5K miles anyway. I recently did front and rear diff gear oil changes on my 2022 Frontier and used Supertech 75w90. Super easy to do on these trucks. I'm closing in on 50K miles and will do the T-case in the not so distant future. I plan on waiting to 60K+ to do anything with the "9G-tronic". Lots of youtube videos on them. Not too bad a DIY process should you decide to.

Longest OCI per carfax was 9k miles.
My OCIs will be ~4k miles.

My main thing is doing what I can to eliminate any sludge/deposits already built up in the engine.
And with the relatively unknown use history, I'm assuming the trans could use some attention as well.

 

[JTK]

Longest OCI per carfax was 9k miles.
My OCIs will be ~4k miles.

My main thing is doing what I can to eliminate any sludge/deposits already built up in the engine.
And with the relatively unknown use history, I'm assuming the trans could use some attention as well.

Like mentioned above, I'd probably go with something like Valvoline R&P 5w30.

Was their a trailer hitch installed on it? Does the bed look like it's done a lot of hauling?

There's a few guys on a Frontier board I frequent who have done drain/fills and pan changes on the new 9spd. OEM Nissan Matic-P is kind of an amber greenish fluid and the drained fluid doesn't look bad out of them at all with 40-50K miles on it. As you probably know, the filters and magnets are bonded into the plastic pan, so you have to change pans to change filters. You have to buy the tool kit for the drain/fill/level check plug. You only get a few quarts out if you don't drop the pan completely. Nice thing is, you don't have to mess with RTV, etc. These pans use gaskets. You're supposed to change the "one time use" aluminum pan bolts as well. I don't think I'd sweat that one.

 

[tenx82]

Is their a trailer hitch installed on it? Does the bed look like it's done a lot of hauling?

Yes, Titans have a hitch as standard equipment.
The bed shows no real signs of wear. No scrapes, scuffs, or other visible damage.