2015 vw jetta rental

[Jetronic]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: madRiver
My wife is considering the related SportsWagon Golf manual transmission just not sure if 1.8 tsi okay for her or want the TDI.

How much more does the TDI cost? How many miles would you have to drive to get that money back? Typically TDI only makes sense if you drive a lot. Unless of course you just love the whole concept of diesel, which is fine, too.

Short commutes are also not good for a modern diesel. DPF will be stuck in regen, unless you take it for a longer drive every so often. Then again, short commutes are probably not good for a modern GDI engine either.



15 minutes of driving with an engine that's warm (temp gauge stabilised) is enough to get the dpf to regen. so in summer time you don't need more than 20 minutes of driving, every few hundred miles.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Jetronic
15 minutes of driving with an engine that's warm (temp gauge stabilised) is enough to get the dpf to regen. so in summer time you don't need more than 20 minutes of driving, every few hundred miles.

Thanks. This should give the previous poster some idea whether diesel makes sense in his scenario.

As for my wife, she has a 5-minute commute, and often no 20+ minutes drives on weekends either. Even during summer, by the time she reaches work, often times her coolant temp gauge hasn't even reached middle of the scale. During winter (and we have fairly long winters), it's even worse. Alas, I realize this type of driving is quite bad for the engine, regardless if diesel or gasoline powered.

 

[Andrew1972]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: madRiver
My wife is considering the related SportsWagon Golf manual transmission just not sure if 1.8 tsi okay for her or want the TDI.

How much more does the TDI cost? How many miles would you have to drive to get that money back? Typically TDI only makes sense if you drive a lot. Unless of course you just love the whole concept of diesel, which is fine, too.

Short commutes are also not good for a modern diesel. DPF will be stuck in regen, unless you take it for a longer drive every so often. Then again, short commutes are probably not good for a modern GDI engine either.



My wife drives 70 miles round trip x 3days/week. The balance is short tripping(5-15 mins). Between daughter tennis tournament and skiing it seems to average 100miles/week with that. It is $3000(tsi vs tdi) price jump for base model which we are interested in.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: madRiver
My wife drives 70 miles round trip x 3days/week. The balance is short tripping(5-15 mins). Between daughter tennis tournament and skiing it seems to average 100miles/week with that. It is $3000(tsi vs tdi) price jump for base model which we are interested in.

So about 20K miles a year then?

Average mpg on the 1.8 TSI is 29. Average mpg on the TDI is 35. Doing some rough calculations, assuming $3/gal cost of either premium gas or diesel, it'd take you about 8 years to recover that extra $3,000 price of the TDI.

But money aside, one engine might "speak" more to you than the other, so you should test drive both and see which one you like better. The TDI models are typically better optioned, too, even in base form.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
So about 20K miles a year then?

Sorry, my math was off. It's more like 16K miles a year, which means break-even point in about 10-11 years or so.

 

[Pesca]

Do you still need premium for the new 1.8T?

I thought they could run on regular fuel now, need to check.

Also remember published number for fuel economy are closer to reality with diesel than gas.

Yes, with VW, you always need to pay an extra for TDI engine, that is the real bummer...

I think they now offer a trendline version for the TDI too, but most people will go with comfortline or highline version, especially if you already pay extra $$$ for the TDI.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: Pesca
Do you still need premium for the new 1.8T?

My bad. Regular is what it now calls for.

 

[KrisZ]

I will be in the market for a family sedan soon and the Passat checks off pretty much all the boxes that matter to us.
The TDI vs the new 1.8TSI is also a consideration but so far the 1.8TSI looks very appealing.

 

[Pesca]

I went for a test drive with my ex-wife 2 years ago when she needed replacing her Sonata which has been totalled.

Did not like the design of the mazda 6, Kia optima, and Honda Accord (too manly), but was interested in the Passat, so we tried a TDI: This thing is HUGE, a true limousine at the back. She has two tall daughters (5'7" and 5'11") and I thought that it is a perfect car for tall passengers.
I am 6'1" and never had so much space sitting at the back of a car.

And with diesel price in Canada, that is an interesting family cruiser if you drive a lot.

Compare to the old 2.5 gas engine, the 1.8T is a nice alternative if you do not drive that much.

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: Pesca
I went for a test drive with my ex-wife 2 years ago when she needed replacing her Sonata which has been totalled.

Did not like the design of the mazda 6, Kia optima, and Honda Accord (too manly), but was interested in the Passat, so we tried a TDI: This thing is HUGE, a true limousine at the back. She has two tall daughters (5'7" and 5'11") and I thought that it is a perfect car for tall passengers.
I am 6'1" and never had so much space sitting at the back of a car.

And with diesel price in Canada, that is an interesting family cruiser if you drive a lot.

Compare to the old 2.5 gas engine, the 1.8T is a nice alternative if you do not drive that much.
Yeah I'm 6'2" and the Passat has tons of room in the back. The new Jetta I can hardly get in and out of the drivers seat, the roof line is so low my head hits it really bad. However the 2013 Beetle is huge in the front, lots of headroom and easy to get in and out of. Actually my 2004 Beetle is one of the roomiest cars I've ever driven, there's just no room for the back seat passengers. Not my problem lol.