2015 Lexus GS 350 2GR-FSE Head Gasket Leaking

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About a year ago, after hearing many good things on here from members such as @JeffKeryk I test drove and fell in love with a clean 1 owner, dealer maintained GS 350 F sport AWD, w/93k miles. I performed a pretty thorough inspection at the time and did not find any evidence of any leaks of any kind, though I will admit I did not boroscope under the intake.

Towards the end of the summer and about 4k miles later I noticed the coolant resevoir was down near low and I had to add about 12 or 14 ounces of coolant to top it off. I didnt think too much of it at the time, as I looked around and didnt see anything obvoius. I figured maybe it had just always been low and I had somehow overlooked it when I inspected it.

After just recently finding a mouse nest in the engine compartment of my wife's Avalon, I figured it would be a good idea to check the the Lex since it has been tucked in for the winter in the same garage. I did find a nest, but then in cleaning it out and looking for any other remnence or damage, I found dried pink crust in the V of the block under the intake.

I had already bought the coolant planning to do all the fluids on the car this spring since it will be coming up on 100k miles. The car has the original coolant, as dealer stated its 10yrs or 120k miles before its needed to be changed and car was just under 10 years old when purchased.

I contacted a few shops in my area, including my go to indi shop, and nobody wants to touch it. It sounds like it is an engine out project that requires many hours of labor. Per the Car Care Nut, you can't mill the heads due to the timing potentially being thrown off on the 2gr series engines either, so I am also concerned about the job being done right. I had a local dealer quote a range of $7 - 9k without seeing it.

It looks like used engines are in the $3 - 4k range without labor, and to be honest they all "look" horrible with dirt and surface corrosion compared to the one in the car now, which is almost clean enough to eat off of. It would also have an unknown maintenance history and i am concerned it could end up with a similar issue.

That said I really love the car, but am truly disappointed to encounter such a serious problem on what was touted as being such a reliable vehicle. I am looking for any advice as to how you guys would move forward in this situation.

If anyone could recomend a reputable shop in the CT area that might be willing to do the job that would also certainly be appreciated.

I will post up some pics when I get a chance.
 
Seems to be issue on some years. Idk what is with head gaskets, 3UR-FE seems also bit prone to it as culprit apparently is neglected coolant flushes.
New 2.4T seems also prone to it around third cylinder.
Are you 100% sure it is head gasket and not leaking from somewhere else?
 
After just recently finding a mouse nest in the engine compartment of my wife's Avalon, I figured it would be a good idea to check the the Lex since it has been tucked in for the winter in the same garage. I did find a nest, but then in cleaning it out and looking for any other remnence or damage, I found dried pink crust in the V of the block under the intake.
So, why exactly are we assuming head gaskets? Did I miss the part of additional diag? Is there nothing else that could leak coolant in that area?
 
Did you make phone calls, or actually get it diagnosed? Car Care Nut is full of hogwash to scare people. There are many opportunities for coolant leaks.
 
If you watch car care nut you will know that driving 100k miles on the coolant was too long. Especially on their more modern all aluminum V6s and V8s. His recommendation is 50k.

At least the 2GR's tend to leak externally unlike the UR V8's which leak into the combustion chamber.

Have a professional confirm the diagnosis though.
 
Seems to be issue on some years. Idk what is with head gaskets, 3UR-FE seems also bit prone to it as culprit apparently is neglected coolant flushes.
New 2.4T seems also prone to it around third cylinder.
Are you 100% sure it is head gasket and not leaking from somewhere else?

So, why exactly are we assuming head gaskets? Did I miss the part of additional diag? Is there nothing else that could leak coolant in that area?

Did you make phone calls, or actually get it diagnosed? Car Care Nut is full of hogwash to scare people. There are many opportunities for coolant leaks.
I have not had it diagnosed officially, as the car is tucked away for the winter. I am going based on what I am able to see with a boroscope camera that looks like dried residue coming down from the heads and pooling/drying in the v of the block.

I am going based on internet searches on other forums with no mention of any other causes/sources for leaks in thay area, and as mentioned a couple of the CCN videos pointing this out as a rare but "somewhat common" issue on the 2gr series engines.

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It almost appears that something has moved in.
I think the mouse that had made his nest on top of the engine must have carried some other stuff in with him.

Unfortunately I can't reach there with my shop vac.

This was my initial finding that led to me to find the dried coolant.

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I have not had it diagnosed officially, as the car is tucked away for the winter. I am going based on what I am able to see with a boroscope camera that looks like dried residue coming down from the heads and pooling/drying in the v of the block.

I am going based on internet searches on other forums with no mention of any other causes/sources for leaks in thay area, and as mentioned a couple of the CCN videos pointing this out as a rare but "somewhat common" issue on the 2gr series engines.

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“Rare but somewhat common?” That only exists on Toyota planet.
 
I'd still find a way to clean it up thoroughly, drop some dye in the system and then monitor closely. Jumping to HGs is like deciding on a full knee replacement because it's a little sore one morning.

I realize the area is hard to see so have a good game plan on how and where to bend/snake a borescope. Bonus points if you can find a way to get UV light in there. Otherwise you might have to pull the intake again to use UV once a leak is observed again.

Note it's not a boroscope, but you make me think of Sandler: "Chloroform? More like bore-o-form!!!!"

edit: it was chlorophyll!!!
 
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Also CCN is solid but like everyone he's got some weird hang ups. His info on the coolant getting "acidic" and killing HGs is hotly contested.

I don't know where I fall but I'm skeptical (and undecided)
 
Also CCN is solid but like everyone he's got some weird hang ups. His info on the coolant getting "acidic" and killing HGs is hotly contested.

I don't know where I fall but I'm skeptical (and undecided)
True. The design of the head on 3UR leaves other possibilities as more probable.
 
Like a few other people have mentioned… if it’s just seeping externally into a place you can’t see but works fine otherwise you have two good options that are both viable:

1. Just keep an eye on it and top it up occasionally. A gallon of coolant is like $20. If you go through a gallon a year so what?

2. Trade it in to a dealership or Carmax or something. And go buy something else. Heck you could buy a similar car if you really want to, and you know what to look for now.
 
Get a legitimate diagnosis. If it is the head gasket, then just add the pint of coolant each year until something bad happens. At that point you still have to pay to get the engine replaced. Non-shadetree shops will not do head gaskets anymore.

Like a few other people have mentioned… if it’s just seeping externally into a place you can’t see but works fine otherwise you have two good options that are both viable:

1. Just keep an eye on it and top it up occasionally. A gallon of coolant is like $20. If you go through a gallon a year so what?

This ⬆️

I think I've topped mine up twice since 2013/4? 500 mL total maybe?
I am liking this option right now, as it gives me some more time to formulate a plan and is also the most cost effective in the short term.

I will definitely plan to have it diagnosed professionally in the spring and will probably go ahead with changing all the other fluids at that time as well. I will keep my fingers crossed as others have mentioned that maybe it isn't actually the head gasket leaking, I am still just unsure of what else in that area could be leaking coolant.

My big concern is that I have honestly never encountered a head gasket leak before that wasn't internal and requiring immediate attention.

Assuming it IS the head gasket that is leaking, is there any risk that the leak could get bad quickly? The plan was to use this car for some family road trips and I would not want to encounter a situation where the leak suddently got bad while on the road far from home.
 
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