2013 Cruze to have diesel engine

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Good idea, but the average joe would probably end up blowing it up with starting it up cold in the winter and hammering the throttle with no warm up, etc, thinking it is just like a gas engine.
 
Pretty much every car maker around has promised a diesel powered car but so far only VW and Audi have delivered. I think the new diesel hybrid technology that VW is working on would be a real game changer if they can pull it off.
 
The US market needs more diesel passenger car options. I am currently looking for a good VW diesel and while I'd prefer a Jetta, I won't even rule out the Beetle for that kind of mileage and longevity.

A domestic diesel offering would be awesome. One problem I see with the US public and diesels is that everyone seems to want cheap throw-away cars after they get bored in 4 or 5 years. Diesels may be expensive to fix when something goes wrong but if you can squeeze 300k or more miles out of a car, it becomes worth it.
 
Let's see, I get about 38mgp average now in a car that cost $12k new. I would take a gently used Peugeot or Mercedes luxury rather than a new chebbie. I agree about needing more domestic built diesel midsized and SUV platform diesel in our market.
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Wanna bet it will take about 2 seconds for a moronic autowriter to invoke the GM gasoline block v8 "crisis conversion" diesel from the 70's. (BTW those A-body smoker oldsmobiles your uncle tossed aside sounded kool in the day with duals and thrush mufflers;)
 
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Sounds like a great idea, but are there enough potential buyers? With the great MPG of the Cruze "ECO" model the only draw I see to the diesel version would be the low-end torque.
 
The EPA is generally against diesels in passenger vehicles. In fact they are against diesels altogether. They publish rules that manufacturers follow and then the EPA changes the rules without warning. The EPA enforces the new rules with litigation and pick and choose their targets.

http://www.independent.org/publications/tir/article.asp?a=16

This behavior by the EPA and strongly supported by Obama's anti oil administration makes this a tough market to be in. It's going to be interesting to see if government sponsored manufacturing as in the case of GM will give them a protected place in the market. Posted regulations make everyone toe the line but the EPA's method allows them to target a particular manufacturer or group of manufacturers like they did in the heavy duty truck law suits under the Clinton administration. The major players Cummins, Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, Navistar-International, and Volvo all met the written regulations but were fined hundreds of millions of dollars for not meeting the new unpublished EPA regulations. The EPA ignored the fact that lead times are needed for a business to change designs and production lines. This kind of terror tactics by the EPA means that the consumer will never get the best a manufacturer can offer.
 
Originally Posted By: Muskieteer
Pretty much every car maker around has promised a diesel powered car but so far only VW and Audi have delivered.


Way off. I drive a BMW 335D. The same engine is offered in one of their SUV's. Mercedes offers the same combo with their diesel.
 
They are gonna have to change that name from Cruze to something else. Its just me. I remember when Chevy had real rides and names. Its just to daxyz sissy sounding IMHO. Which would u rather attend, a Corvette car show or a Cruze show, give me a break Jake>>>>>>>>>>>Im buying the suds tonight, u older guys come on down,Toledo, at Delaneys.amen
 
Originally Posted By: ryansride2017
The torque will make this a very usable family sedan. The Eco Cruise isn't even in the ballpark. The 1.4 liter wouldn't serve my purpose...particularly where I live.

Just put an old fashion 283 chevy v-8 in that ride and u will have tire burning, Pa hill burner thats for sure, not to mention a great sounding engine that beats the meow in most of the rides today. of course all of this is again IMHO. Now where did I leave my Chevelle 396, hmmm.
 
I'd get one over a chinese hybrid anyday.

Too bad #2 is pretty expensive now, being winter and all. Untaxed heating oil is more than road taxed unleaded at present! Add taxes and that Cruze would have to get 55 mpg to break even at today's prices.

Their current 1.4 turbo DI that runs on 87 octane impresses me on paper.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
I'd get one over a chinese hybrid anyday.

Too bad #2 is pretty expensive now, being winter and all. Untaxed heating oil is more than road taxed unleaded at present! Add taxes and that Cruze would have to get 55 mpg to break even at today's prices.

Their current 1.4 turbo DI that runs on 87 octane impresses me on paper.
Im gonna have to calm down, I too owned a few riceburners and 2 vws a looooong time ago. Yep I was mental once, now I cant hear myself break wind, again all IMHO.amen.
 
Sounds interesting but I think they need to get closer to 50MPG out of one with a 6 speed .

I would want to give a new engine a year or 2 before I get excited about it . I hope GM has learned some things about building diesels , remember the famous 350 Olds conversion and a few other diesel engines they had that were pure [censored] (yes , I was a GM mechanic about that time).

BTW , how many of you guys think the noise from a diesel is actually from the engine ??
 
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Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
Sounds interesting but I think they need to get closer to 50MPG out of one with a 6 speed .

I would want to give a new engine a year or 2 before I get excited about it . I hope GM has learned some things about building diesels , remember the famous 350 Olds conversion and a few other diesel engines they had that were pure [censored] (yes , I was a GM mechanic about that time).

BTW , how many of you guys think the noise from a diesel is actually from the engine ??


The diesel engine to be used in the 2013 Cruze is already in use overseas so it already is going through its "breaking in period". If this was a newly designed engine for this vehicle, I would be prone to give it a few years as well.
 
Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
Sounds interesting but I think they need to get closer to 50MPG out of one with a 6 speed .

I would want to give a new engine a year or 2 before I get excited about it . I hope GM has learned some things about building diesels , remember the famous 350 Olds conversion and a few other diesel engines they had that were pure [censored] (yes , I was a GM mechanic about that time).

BTW , how many of you guys think the noise from a diesel is actually from the engine ??



What is the noise from if not the engine?
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
I wouldn't by a G.M vehicle.

Lots of value added.
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I might as well add I wouldn't own a Toyota.

To get back on topic. Would be nice to see a small diesel in this car, but after my Jetta, I am a little gun shy. I have no doubt it would have lasted awhile but at what cost. It was pricey to own.
 
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Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
Sounds interesting but I think they need to get closer to 50MPG out of one with a 6 speed .

I would want to give a new engine a year or 2 before I get excited about it . I hope GM has learned some things about building diesels , remember the famous 350 Olds conversion and a few other diesel engines they had that were pure [censored] (yes , I was a GM mechanic about that time).

BTW , how many of you guys think the noise from a diesel is actually from the engine ??



What is the noise from if not the engine?

I think it is the fuel system. Not the actual valve train or bottom end.
 
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