2012 Focus: 160hp, 40mpg

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Originally Posted By: jmsjags
the focus is gaining 20 hp on the previous model and is expected to get 6 mpg better on the highway! that's insane! this is definitely my next car as soon as i get some money saved up!


I was astounded at my 2010 rental that got me 37mpg during an 8-hour trip. Fit and finish were decent but power and economy would win me over if I was in the market for a small car.
 
Looks really nice, I just hope they've figured out how to prevent intake deposits that other DI engines seem to suffer from.
 
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Looks really nice, I just hope they've figured out how to prevent intake deposits that other DI engines seem to suffer from.


I really hope the automotive industry as a whole can figure this out. There's a lot of great cars out there that are candidates for this issue, and I don't know of any real resolution being advanced in the industry.
 
Thanks for the post.... Nice to know that direct injection is bringing the same mileage increases to cars that it has to outboard engines. Of course, no valve deposits on the two stroke Evinrudes, but still......

Heck, the world running low on oil reserves could be fun!!!
 
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Maybe the answer is to use two-stroke engines in cars. Those Evinrudes go up to 250-300 HP don't they?


They are too much fun in boats, we do not want to share!!

Confession: The boat I usually drive has 3 175 hp Evinrude Etecs on it.
 
I would give it more than "mediocre", a 15 percent increase along with more power is pretty amazing!! We all think are engine technology is mature with little left to improve on but....

remember, these are the new, lowered epa estimates, this car will be pretty much be at or above 40 mpg all the time. Our 41 mpg Corolla is now only rated at 37 under the new system.

Direct injection is allowing 12:1 compression, the technical reasons why this is possible are fascinating. Years ago I had cars that pinged endlessly with 9:1 compression, now we have gasoline engines running near-diesel like compression ratios, with the attendant efficiency.

Increasing compression give higher thermal efficiency, but it is not endless and further gains are much smaller. At one time we thought adding ethanol might let us get up to these ratios and overcome the mileage loss inherent in using ethanol. Now, it appears that we gave gotten there anyway, without the ethanol downsides
 
Not "bad", but I fail to see where this is anything impressive.
The only curb weight I found was a 2010 model, so forgive me.

2012 Ford Focus
HP: 160
Hwy MPG: 40
Curb Weight: 2600 approx.

Hmm...
My '07 vehicle has almost twice the horsepower, weighs 400-500 more pounds, and I can get 35+ on the highway.
Maybe that's why I'm not too stunned by this.
With a vehicle well under 3,000 pounds and an engine (DI no less) that should barely sip fuel, you better be at 45-50+ to even be comparatively innovative. Seriously, not to burst anyone's bubble, but it doesn't smell all that rosy when you analyze it.
 
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You "can get" 35 mpg.... but whats your epa number??

Lets compare apples to apples.

Maybe somebody "can get" 50 mpg with the new DI Focus
 
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My '07 vehicle has almost twice the horsepower, weighs 400-500 more pounds, and I can get 35+ on the highway.
Maybe that's why I'm not too stunned by this.


40 mpg will probably be what the EPA rates it at. and people routinely get better fuel economy than the rating on the window sticker. you are a prime example. your car is rated by the EPA at 19/28 (26 if its an auto) and look at what you achieve.

my fiancee's 08 focus is rated at 33 mpg on the highway and i get upwards of 40 mpg without even trying. so i'm willing to bet the new focus should be able to hit 50 easily. IMO that's pretty impressive
 
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You "can get" 35 mpg.... but whats your epa number??

Lets compare apples to apples.

Maybe somebody "can get" 50 mpg with the new DI Focus



Originally Posted By: jmsjags
Originally Posted By: BeanCounter
My '07 vehicle has almost twice the horsepower, weighs 400-500 more pounds, and I can get 35+ on the highway.
Maybe that's why I'm not too stunned by this.


40 mpg will probably be what the EPA rates it at. and people routinely get better fuel economy than the rating on the window sticker. you are a prime example. your car is rated by the EPA at 19/28 (26 if its an auto) and look at what you achieve.

my fiancee's 08 focus is rated at 33 mpg on the highway and i get upwards of 40 mpg without even trying. so i'm willing to bet the new focus should be able to hit 50 easily. IMO that's pretty impressive


I also don't drive a slushbox, and I don't believe it can achieve as good of numbers as someone who truly knows how to run a straight drive for the vast, vast majority of vehicles.

That being said, does the Focus come in anything but slushbox? Doubtful.
Feel free to build it up as you will, but it means nothing until it is proven.
"Should be's" and guesstimations of what it "might" do are just that...
 
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Yes, the 5 speed manual transmission is standard equipment on most Ford Focus models

I have even seen a few Focus wagons with the 5 speed, certainly a great combination of roominess, economy and fun to drive factor!!

But, our 5 speed Corolla has to run another 250 K miles before I will retire it!! (Epa 41 hwy) but all 2008 and earlier numbers have been revised downward by about 10 percent now.
 
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