Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
BMW LL01 is a long life oil. And Mobil1FS 0w-40 does not hold up in a bmw engine for 30k km.
If you look at m1 fs 0w-40 uoas it cant be far from the truth.
That's a steaming load of bovine excrement. It carries numerous long drain approvals from other marques; the same approvals its predecessor carried. For example, MB 229.3:
Originally Posted by Mercedes
MB sheet 229.3 approved oils
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain interval indicator FSS up to 20,000 km, or 40,000 km - 25,000 mi,
And 229.5:
Originally Posted by Mercedes
MB sheet 229.5 approved oils; "MB Longlife Service Oils"
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain intervals beyond 229.3 oils, to 30,000 km, min 1.8% fuel saving, first oils introduced summer 2002. ACEA A3 B4. For gas engines of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with Euro 4 diesel particle filters).
229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils.
Yees in MB engine. Did talk about BMW engine. How long oci interval do MB have in Canada?
There's an argument that M1 has for marketing reasons opted not to market their M1 FS 0w40 as LL01. There really is limited demand for this spec since LL04 has replaced LL01 in much of Western Europe and never mind all the new BMW "FE" certs which have come about within the last couple of years.
In the US, BMW moved away from LL01 altogether.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
BMW LL01 is a long life oil. And Mobil1FS 0w-40 does not hold up in a bmw engine for 30k km.
If you look at m1 fs 0w-40 uoas it cant be far from the truth.
That's a steaming load of bovine excrement. It carries numerous long drain approvals from other marques; the same approvals its predecessor carried. For example, MB 229.3:
Originally Posted by Mercedes
MB sheet 229.3 approved oils
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain interval indicator FSS up to 20,000 km, or 40,000 km - 25,000 mi,
And 229.5:
Originally Posted by Mercedes
MB sheet 229.5 approved oils; "MB Longlife Service Oils"
for passenger cars with gas and diesel engines with extended drain intervals beyond 229.3 oils, to 30,000 km, min 1.8% fuel saving, first oils introduced summer 2002. ACEA A3 B4. For gas engines of the M100 series, gas engines of the M200 series and diesel engines of the OM600 series (not models with Euro 4 diesel particle filters).
229.5 engine oils must be used with fleece oil filter designed for use with 229.5 engine oils.
Yees in MB engine. Did talk about BMW engine. How long oci interval do MB have in Canada?
There's an argument that M1 has for marketing reasons opted not to market their M1 FS 0w40 as LL01. There really is limited demand for this spec since LL04 has replaced LL01 in much of Western Europe and never mind all the new BMW "FE" certs which have come about within the last couple of years.
In the US, BMW moved away from LL01 altogether.