2009 VW Jetta SportWagen TDI

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From what I have seen VW has been like that with all many of it's cars the last few years. It's crazy, rather than give one dealer lets say 4 or five different colors of rabbits in a shipment they'll get 6 gray ones and nothing else. Nearby dealers may also get all grey. So f.e. if you wanted a white one you have to ship it from another state. It is really weird. Cars that are supposedly not out yet sometimes all of a sudden just show up without warning and sometimes cars that should be out are delayed for a really long time.

You can track specific cars via the "ask a VW salesman" thread on VW vortex. They can tell you where a car with your specifications is anywhere in the country and then your salesman could possibly flag it for you (possibly) and they can often also tell you the exact location/status of your ordered car. In other words, sometimes you have to do the salesman's work for them (if you want to know your car's status that is). I have found that if you assume your salesman knows nothing and is not capable of researching it him/herself, that is pretty close to the truth.
 
Spoke with the dealer last week. We now have a VIN for the JSW exactly as we ordered it, but with the added option of upgraded floor mats.

From what I have been reading on various TDI fora, that means delivery to the dealer, and to us, is about a month away, give or take a week. It seems production is now ramping up, too.

It's been about four or five months, and of course fuel is now plummeting at the pumps. And it requires a 507.00 oil. But by all accounts it should be worth the wait.
 
Upgraded floor mats, huh? That's gotta be the works! :)

Seriously though, congrats! Be sure to post some pics when you get it.

When I went back to Poland last month, I drove my mom's new S40 with a 2-liter turbo diesel engine (it's a Ford engine) and a 6-speed manual tranny. The clackety-clack at low rpms right when you step on the gas was annoying a bit, but other than that, the large amount of torque available at low rpms was definitely nice. Add to that impressive fuel economy, and it adds up to a pretty nice package.
 
Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Any word on which, if any, of the oil companies will be producing a commercially available 507.00 rated oil?


What on Earth is that supposed to mean?
 
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Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Any word on which, if any, of the oil companies will be producing a commercially available 507.00 rated oil?


What on Earth is that supposed to mean?


What do you think it means? You're a smart dude.

I was wondering if retailers in the USA besides the VW dealers would be selling this oil.
 
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You're a smart dude.


Coming from someone who chooses to ask an obtuse question, this compliment fails to blow a cool breeze up my skirt.
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Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Any word on which, if any, of the oil companies will be producing a commercially available 507.00 rated oil?


Check pg 14-15 of this document for a full list of 507 oils.
http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/3005/V170801.pdf

In the U.S.A probably Elf, Total, Castrol and Mobil will be your best bet to find. Castrol SLX Professional LL03 should be available at the VW dealer.
 
Some dealers are selling the VW LL3 at under $7. I don't know if ours is, though.

Considering that all oil prices are getting stiff, it's within the envelope of sanity.

The price should drop (hopefully) once more blenders here get on the new spec.
 
I wonder why VW won't make a diesel that will run on Rotella, Delo, Delvac, etc.? Instead, they seem insistent on designing their engines (gas & diesel) to run on some fancy-schmancy oil. It's a little irritating to me.
 
Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
I wonder why VW won't make a diesel that will run on Rotella, Delo, Delvac, etc.? Instead, they seem insistent on designing their engines (gas & diesel) to run on some fancy-schmancy oil. It's a little irritating to me.


Remove the advanced emissions control system and run salad oil.
 
Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
I wonder why VW won't make a diesel that will run on Rotella, Delo, Delvac, etc.? Instead, they seem insistent on designing their engines (gas & diesel) to run on some fancy-schmancy oil. It's a little irritating to me.


Right now, this oil is the only way to run the 50 state compliant clean diesel emissions systems. Run a standard HDEO, and you damage the emissions system. The SOTA diesel emissions technology is a little ahead of the mainstream oil technology at the moment. That will change given time.

The VW TDI is actually more maintenance friendly than any other clean diesel currently made. The other German diesels (such as MB's BlueTEC) require periodic urea canister refills (at up to $35/gal). The TDI does not use any urea and it CAN run on biodiesel.

With a $1,300 tax credit, I can afford $7 oil for a couple changes. Besides, VW pays for all the scheduled maintenance for the first 36k anyway.
 
Originally Posted By: Volvohead


Right now, this oil is the only way to run the 50 state compliant clean diesel emissions systems. Run a standard HDEO, and you damage the emissions system. The SOTA diesel emissions technology is a little ahead of the mainstream oil technology at the moment. That will change given time.

The VW TDI is actually more maintenance friendly than any other clean diesel currently made. The other German diesels (such as MB's BlueTEC) require periodic urea canister refills (at up to $35/gal). The TDI does not use any urea and it CAN run on biodiesel.

With a $1,300 tax credit, I can afford $7 oil for a couple changes. Besides, VW pays for all the scheduled maintenance for the first 36k anyway.


What kind of special component is this oil made with? Ashless additives?
 
PB,

My understanding about the 507.00 spec is that it requires a low SAPS formula compatible with the new diesel particulate filters.

Does that mean that the latest RTS formula might work with it? I don't rightly know. But I'm not prepared to jeopardize powertrain and emissions warranty coverages on a new engine to find out.

IIRC, the last gen PD TDIs required high pressure anti-wear additives, so VW tends to think outside the mainstream lubricating norms with their later diesels.

No biggie. Just makes for a cluttered oil shelf.
 
We picked up the JSW last Friday evening. Candy white on beige w/pano, exactly as ordered.

A very nice wagon. You can use the tail pipe as an inhaler (only joking), it exhausts so cleanly. Other than a slight tell-tale clatter when first started, one would be hard pressed to know it's a diesel. Once warmed up, it is gasoline quiet.

But the best part is the road performance. Turbo lag is nil, and the DSG shifts instantly. This engine pulls strong and smooth like a 3 liter six, and merges into traffic easily. We averaged over 40 mpg on it driving all day yesterday, starting with barely 30 miles on the odo. Definitely a competitive alternative to a hybrid, and lives up to the hype.

Rest of the car is typical MkV Jetta, but with a good sized rear compartment and a giant skylight. Although I fear the family is getting hooked on the free Sirius.

Once I figure out how to do it, I'll post some pix.
 
Originally Posted By: Volvohead


Right now, this oil is the only way to run the 50 state compliant clean diesel emissions systems. Run a standard HDEO, and you damage the emissions system. The SOTA diesel emissions technology is a little ahead of the mainstream oil technology at the moment. That will change given time.


But dont some of the low emissions HDEOs, i.e. the CJ-4 LE types like Delo 400 LE count? Maybe not officially, but practically?
 
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