2001 4R70W ? quarts dry
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Vehicle specific! what year/make/model/options?
Dry is different then a simple pan drop.
Budget 4 quarts for the TC and another 6-8 for the pan. If you have an aftermarket pan, add that capacity also.
If you don't have an aftermarket pan and work/abuse this vehicle, consider a pan upgrade while you're working on the VB.
Dry is different then a simple pan drop.
Budget 4 quarts for the TC and another 6-8 for the pan. If you have an aftermarket pan, add that capacity also.
If you don't have an aftermarket pan and work/abuse this vehicle, consider a pan upgrade while you're working on the VB.
2001 Supercrew, 4x4, 5.4l engine. I think they are all the same from 2000 and up. I have gathered about 15 quarts to be safe. Now I need to decide which filter because with a new clean out, I don't anticipate dropping the pan again. I'll suck the fluid out of the dipstick and get 4 quarts at a time out of it and change it out that way every other oil change in about 20K more miles.
Schmoe,
The 4R70W has a 14 quart "dry" capacity, according to my sources. The pan itself holds 5.0 quarts.
Mobil 1 Multi-Vehicle, Full-Synthetic ATF was recently "approved" by Ford for Mercon-V applications, and would be a good choice for the truck.
What do you mean by a "shift plate?" Are you having a shift kit installed? I'm not familiar with transmission upgrades....thanks.
The 4R70W has a 14 quart "dry" capacity, according to my sources. The pan itself holds 5.0 quarts.
Mobil 1 Multi-Vehicle, Full-Synthetic ATF was recently "approved" by Ford for Mercon-V applications, and would be a good choice for the truck.
What do you mean by a "shift plate?" Are you having a shift kit installed? I'm not familiar with transmission upgrades....thanks.
Thanks, I had kind of figured to get 15 quarts for the "just in case" clause that always happens. I ain't starting no crap, but with the very, very sensitive 4R70W trans, the only thing proven to work to get rid of the shudder problem is three things...use only labled Mercon V ATF's (Castrol or Motorcraft), install a transmission cooler and change the ATF at least every 30K miles. Everyone over at F150.com and all the other F150 forums that tried an "approved" multi-use fluid has not had any luck. Now, they will tell you they have BUT they had to add some LC or some other modifyier. On the Ford trucks and this company called factorytech, it is made up of former Ford transmission workers that retired or quit, and went into business making a better Ford tranny. Anyway from all their rebuilding, they discovered that instead of having to intall a shift kit or a new valve body, they can get the same kind of results with a separator plate. These transmissions are notorious for having a long shift time which eventually eats clutches and are prone to premature failure. Not unlike the 6th generation Hondas that have had metallurgy problems, the clutches and the 1-2 accumulators fail.
I've used most brands of MerconV. I don't care for the Castrol. The pennzoil/aamco/store brand fluids worked as good or better then the factory fill.
The separator plate IS the shift kit.
Its funny how something as simple as a 'shift kit' from 20 years ago now has a dozen different names: correction kit, VB mod, plate, improver, line pressure controller.........
The separator plate IS the shift kit.
Its funny how something as simple as a 'shift kit' from 20 years ago now has a dozen different names: correction kit, VB mod, plate, improver, line pressure controller.........
The 4R70W in my '03 Marauder takes just under 4 quarts when I drain the pan using the drain plug (I have a U-Haul pan) and just over 4 quarts when I change the filter, too.
Total system is 14 qts, pan will drain 4 qts. Any approved Mercon V fluid will mix and work fine. M1 is $5.93 a qt. at AA. Life is easier if you install a drain plug while the pan is off or buy a hand pump to pull fluid from the pan. This will allow you to freshen the fluid a regular intervals. Filter kit is about $30 from any auto store or Ford dealer.
My 2001 F150 had a drain plug on the converter, but not in the pan. I installed one and used just over 13 qrts after both pan and converter were drained.
I did drain and fills every 30K in that truck and it performed flawlessly. The only gripe I had was with the Castrol Mercon V. I used that the first time and after 20K (50K on the truck) the tranny shifted erratically and began to get sloppy. Went back to Motorcraft and it performed well through its service life. When I traded it at 130K the tranny was operating just like new.
I did drain and fills every 30K in that truck and it performed flawlessly. The only gripe I had was with the Castrol Mercon V. I used that the first time and after 20K (50K on the truck) the tranny shifted erratically and began to get sloppy. Went back to Motorcraft and it performed well through its service life. When I traded it at 130K the tranny was operating just like new.
I have found that synthetic fluids work fine in my F150. After having a simple pan drop, filter change and refill performed at the dealer I use a hand pump to extract 3-4 quarts from the pan to keep the fluid nice and fresh. Did this twice with Amsoil but have used M1 now that it is an approved Mercon V fluid and its cheaper than Amsoil. Truck shifts like new and fluid looks great.
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