2 Mach-E Blue Cruise Fatalities

I wish these driver systems were less stressful to me. They leave me constantly on edge. I’m thinking I’m just not meant to use them and that I’m not the target audience. I get this feeling that if I actually relax I’ll get complacent and not intervene in time of a really stupid mistake.
It's not stressful to me at all. The system will deactivate if you're not watching the road, it's got one of those sensors above the steering column. So you should know and anticipate what is happening based on the fact that you're watching the road. It's never really done anything unpredictable for me on relatively straight freeways. As I mentioned in my last post, I do give the system a little helpful correction if we are going around relatively sharp curves to make sure it responds in time.

What makes it less stressful than normal driving is that I don't have to be making minor course corrections all the time and adjusting my speed for the traffic around me. Plus the fact that it's hands free on freeways. Of course you do have to monitor your speed because it will slow you significantly if you come up on slower traffic. It will however suggest if a lane change is available and will automatically change lanes with light pressure to the turn signal stalk. I always double check with a glance at the side view mirror and a glance over my shoulder.
 
How certain is anyone bluecruise was on? or even adaptive cruise? I believe on Fords you can switch to regular cruise control
Really, the only effective difference is with the normal adaptive cruse on secondary roads, you are required to keep your hand on the wheel. It will still do all the same things as with BlueCruise on the freeway, besides the hands free function being disabled.

To do normal, traditional speed holding cruise would require disabling lane keep and adaptive speed cruise in the menu. The car is delivered with it enabled. It would have to be intentional by the owner to have these features disabled.
 
The NTSB investigation found it was activated.


Some more reading.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/these...e-their-clients-fatal-dui-crash-on-bluecruise
Attorneys gonna attorney.

I do think the arguments in this case will be interesting. I have heard people say at a winery that the car was going to drive itself home. If I was the prosecution, I would attempt to establish that the driver knew that he had drank too much to drive and thought he could lean on the car "self-driving" as a substitute.
 
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Really, the only effective difference is with the normal adaptive cruse on secondary roads, you are required to keep your hand on the wheel. It will still do all the same things as with BlueCruise on the freeway, besides the hands free function being disabled.

To do normal, traditional speed holding cruise would require disabling lane keep and adaptive speed cruise in the menu. The car is delivered with it enabled. It would have to be intentional by the owner to have these features disabled.

I have lane keep disabled in mine, but can't disable adaptive cruise. I like a combination of adaptive and normal cruise: only brake if a collision is likely, not to maintain speed downhill.
 
Attorneys gonna attorney.

I do think the arguments in this case will be interesting. I have heard people say at a winery that the car was going to drive itself home. If I was the prosecution, I would attempt to establish that the driver knew that he had drank too much to drive and thought he could lean on the car "self-driving" as a substitute.

it's enough that you walk up to your car when drunk to get caught: intention to drive while intoxicated
 
It's not stressful to me at all. The system will deactivate if you're not watching the road, it's got one of those sensors above the steering column. So you should know and anticipate what is happening based on the fact that you're watching the road. It's never really done anything unpredictable for me on relatively straight freeways. As I mentioned in my last post, I do give the system a little helpful correction if we are going around relatively sharp curves to make sure it responds in time.

What makes it less stressful than normal driving is that I don't have to be making minor course corrections all the time and adjusting my speed for the traffic around me. Plus the fact that it's hands free on freeways. Of course you do have to monitor your speed because it will slow you significantly if you come up on slower traffic. It will however suggest if a lane change is available and will automatically change lanes with light pressure to the turn signal stalk. I always double check with a glance at the side view mirror and a glance over my shoulder.
I guess that’s what I mean. It will do its thing, likely very safe, but the process of monitoring it doesn’t allow me to relax for some reason. I never get to that point of it feeling like it’s doing something positive for my experience on the road.

I think I may be a bit of a control freak in that respect.
 
I would never want to drive a car where I’m not in control
This is where I'm at. I have a disconnect where people feel it relaxes them. I'm a horrible passenger too so I think I'll never relax with this technology. I like being in control too much.
 
I would never want to drive a car where I’m not in control
You are in control with this system and the car will actually nag you to pay attention if it thinks you're not paying attention. It has a sensor above the steering column to detect if you're looking at the road or not.
 
You are in control with this system and the car will actually nag you to pay attention if it thinks you're not paying attention. It has a sensor above the steering column to detect if you're looking at the road or not.
The Model 3 has a camera just above the rear view mirror. While on AP, it checks your eyes and seems to know if you are holding your cell phone.
Don't ask me how I know...
 
You are in control with this system and the car will actually nag you to pay attention if it thinks you're not paying attention. It has a sensor above the steering column to detect if you're looking at the road or not.
I get what you mean but I do also share his sentiment. It doesn't feel like I'm in control of anything. It's a me thing which I'm aware of.
 
I get what you mean but I do also share his sentiment. It doesn't feel like I'm in control of anything. It's a me thing which I'm aware of.
Unfortunately you really have to pay attention as the jacka**es will swerve at you if they see you don't have your hands on the steering wheel. This has happened to me multiple times on the freeway outside of town, in urban and suburban settings I've never had a problem, although I'm also much less likely to cede control in those conditions. Just country fried jerks trying to make a point, I guess.
 
That's how people know these systems should not be allowed.
Not sure I follow...
Whether you like driver assist, FSD, whatever, there are benefits. No driver can see in 360*. And no software is capable of distracted driving. And then there's drunk driving...
 
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Not sure I follow...
Whether you like driver assist, FSD, whatever, there are benefits. No driver can see in 360*. And no software is capable of distracted driving. And then there's drunk driving...
He's just talking trash about automated driving systems. No hearts or minds to be changed here at BITOG. Except maybe about oil in the used oil analysis forum.
 
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