$14.83 for Harley Filter

[firemachine69]

Originally Posted By: Bror Jace
boraticus has been openly provocative for sure ... but he does have a point. A decade or more ago Harley's popularity transformed them from a motoring icon to another mass-marketed, mass-produced product with a premium price tag. In affluent North America, middle-aged men with enough money to buy a used compact car could finally get something to make them feel young, cool, etc ...

The end result is that there are a LOT of Harleys out there. And like any grown-up toy, people buy them then fail to get enough use from them and after a while they are put up for sale. That's great for people looking for bargains ... but poor if you are into image and exclusivity.

Does Harley still make the resale guarantee they used to? in this recession, such a policy could really hurt them ... if not put them under. I wouldn't make that kind of offer regardless WHAT product I sold.

It's not just Harleys but many brands of motorcycles, boats, personal watercraft, snowmobiles, etc ... are cheap right now.




No kiddding on the cheap watercraft. I was surfing around (pun intended

) for a boat + motor combo. The dealer refused to budge four hundred bucks for all the trinkets they claim "are worth thousands" (but really cost maybe fifty bucks, max.) I told the salesman he was being pretty ridiculous, considering the same exact boat was freqently sold in our local newspaper for half price if you went with last year's model (our recession had already started by then, so most of these 07's/08's have under fifty hours of usage, many under ten). Based on how both of our two local mining giants have been massively laying off for the last little while, I think asking for $400 was being just a bit more than reasonable (I was going to toss him a bone by offering the sticker price (without D+D+T), for an out-the-door package). If there's one hyper-inflated product, it's GOTTA be the boat and other rec vehicle segment. Time they come back to the reality of a recession!

 

[G-MAN]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I drive a Softail Twin Cam 88 now and my wife has Lowrider 88 and while these bikes are very well built and so nice and smooth I still regret Harley's ditching the real bikers for the wannabees....all about the dollar! They can sell bikes for 40k to these posers and forget the hard working man/woman who supported them - they were priced out of the game. RANT OVER!


It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up.

And, IMO, if Harley really only catered to the "posers" the very bikes you claim are "very well built and so nice and smooth" would be neither, because bikes that are built well, and operate smoothly are designed for people who RIDE, and no matter what your income, wardrobe, or whatever, if you like to RIDE and do so on a regular basis you are a "real biker." If you buy a Harley just to say you own one and it spends 99.9% of its time sitting in your garage collecting dust in between random acts of polishing it, then you aren't. It's that simple.

 

[boraticus]

"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.

I agree with your comments about riding (no matter what brand). There are two HD owners that live across the street from me. They both own new model HDs. One has had his out once for about an hour. The other just took his out today for the first time this year to go to work. Both are pretty much polishing posers. I put more miles on each of my four "on the road" bikes in one week than they do in a year. Riders ride. Posers polish.

 

[G-MAN]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.


Okay. Please give me the Harley model that sells for $40,000.

 

[Mr_Incredible]

As for resale value, I sold my '85 FLHT about six years ago for $8200. I purchased it 12 years prior for $8500. If I'd been a little more patient I probably could have gotten the full $8.5k.

As I age I try to relieve myself of my moral failings. Looking down on people for what I see as their failings is one of those things I'm trying to reduce. I believe there are very few of us that have enough karma in the bank to judge others, and bugging about what kind of bike someone rides and whether or not they deserve it or are exhibiting the proper set of actions in its use seems quite petty.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: G-MAN
Originally Posted By: boraticus
"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.


Okay. Please give me the Harley model that sells for $40,000.



There are none based on MSRP. BUT the lovely dealers love adding all the goodies and marki ups to get ya there. My local HD here in Texas has only 6 bikes that are base from the factory at MSRP. All the other bikes (more than 50) are loaded up with stuff. (Like a car dealer putting on stripes and paint protectant). They have 2 Ultra classics, one foe 29k and the other is 44k. Avg price there for a lowrider is 21k

$40k harleys are very common.

 

[ZGRider]

Here's a thought...if certain Harley riders don't want to be regarded as "polishing posers" then they could begin by riding more often and not always have their bikes spit and polish clean. Show up more often with bugs in their teeth and on their bikes and they might get more respect from other non-Harley riders.

Another note: Wave at all riders and not just other Harley riders, or not at all. How many of you metric riders have noticed this behavior.

Not bashing Harleys, just some of the "goofy" Harley wannabes.

One more note: What good do leather chaps do in a crash if they don't even cover the buttocks? Are they just for show? They look like they provide as much protection as not wearing a helmet.

 

[Mr_Incredible]

I'm just not getting why anyone cares that some riders polish more than ride. What business is it of theirs how much chrome they have on their oil filters? Are they also keeping track of how often "posers": beat the kids, clean their mowers, balance their checkbook, change their oil, or tidy up their garage? Who cares about somebody else's miles per year? Who's keeping track of the complainers' miles and bona-fides? Who cares? (non-hysterical questions)

I can't tell you how many times I've waved at non-Harley riders and got nothing in return. That cuts both ways. Sometimes even people that usually wave are enjoying things enough to where they not doing the wave thing. It's not mandatory, IIRC.

When calling others goofy, check your six for those calling you goofy. Nobody is immune.

Chaps help for bugs/rocks and other. If it doesn't meet with anyone else's approval...oh well.

Buncha dang busy bodies...

 

[heavyhitter]

For the love of God I wish this thread would just die. Nothing about the original post.

 

[Mr_Incredible]

You keep coming back because...?

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: G-MAN
Originally Posted By: boraticus
"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.





Okay. Please give me the Harley model that sells for $40,000.




G-Man REREAD my post BEFORE blasting me!!!!!!!! I clearly stated that DEALERS mark up these bike to high prices by adding accessories etc! These hi dollar bikes are at HD dealers nationwide and it (to say again so you understand) is not baed on MSRP. I never said HD makes 40k bikes - somebody else said that and yes that is incorrect. However - $40k bikes are at the dealer made that high by the dealer. My goodness, dude you're out there today!

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
Originally Posted By: boraticus
"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.


Okay. Please give me the Harley model that sells for $40,000.



There are none based on MSRP. BUT the lovely dealers love adding all the goodies and marki ups to get ya there. My local HD here in Texas has only 6 bikes that are base from the factory at MSRP. All the other bikes (more than 50) are loaded up with stuff. (Like a car dealer putting on stripes and paint protectant). They have 2 Ultra classics, one foe 29k and the other is 44k. Avg price there for a lowrider is 21k

$40k harleys are very common.



JUST for G-MAN so he can REREAD my post.

 

[G-MAN]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
Originally Posted By: boraticus
"It's pretty pathetic when an obvious Harley lover perpetuates some of the same baloney that the Harley haters love to spew. There is not a single model in the Harley line up that sells for $40,000, even with the most egregious dealer mark up."

No offense intended but, accepting reality in not a bad thing. Actually, for those of us who live in the real world, it's pretty much necessary most of the time.





Okay. Please give me the Harley model that sells for $40,000.




G-Man REREAD my post BEFORE blasting me!!!!!!!! I clearly stated that DEALERS mark up these bike to high prices by adding accessories etc! These hi dollar bikes are at HD dealers nationwide and it (to say again so you understand) is not baed on MSRP. I never said HD makes 40k bikes - somebody else said that and yes that is incorrect. However - $40k bikes are at the dealer made that high by the dealer. My goodness, dude you're out there today!

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I drive a Softail Twin Cam 88 now and my wife has Lowrider 88 and while these bikes are very well built and so nice and smooth I still regret Harley's ditching the real bikers for the wannabees....all about the dollar! They can sell bikes for 40k to these posers and forget the hard working man/woman who supported them - they were priced out of the game. RANT OVER!


Are you trying to tell me the two pronouns after the noun "Harley" don't refer to Harley, but to the dealers? Please...

 

[TucsonDon]

It was a dark and stormy night ...

 

[PT1]

Originally Posted By: heavyhitter
For the love of God I wish this thread would just die. Nothing about the original post.


This thread is starting to grow on me...as for the $40k Harley...have not seen one yet...paid about $14,400 for my 06 FXDLI.

 

[PT1]

Originally Posted By: TucsonDon
It was a dark and stormy night ...


LOL,

It was a dark and stormy night and Bob had just put his $40,000.00 Harley in the garage for the night when suddenly...

 

[G-MAN]

Originally Posted By: PT1
Originally Posted By: heavyhitter
For the love of God I wish this thread would just die. Nothing about the original post.


This thread is starting to grow on me...as for the $40k Harley...have not seen one yet...paid about $14,400 for my 06 FXDLI.


The most expensive Harley I've ever seen at my dealer was a CVO Fat Bob which was a little over $35,000 and it was already sold. The buyer had requested over $10,000 in modifications that required the widening of the rear fender to mount an over-wide rear tire and repainting the rear fender to match the custom CVO paint job. And I must say, the indy painter matched the CVO paint perfectly. I could not tell the rear fender was not CVO original.

 

[GMBoy]

I personally never paid more than MSRP for any of my bikes. But people have and do.

 

[TucsonDon]

Originally Posted By: PT1
It was a dark and stormy night and Bob had just put his $40,000.00 Harley in the garage for the night when suddenly...

... a shot rang out! And the bullet pierced the $14.83 oil filter, spilling the 20W-50 synthetic all over the floor. A bug crawled through the oil. "Hmmm," it mused. "Iron at 22ppm." Just then an Amsoil rep came through the door ...

 

[porkchop01]

This is great!