100k mile bikes...

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Originally posted by Stooge:
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It does build up on the sprockets and I have to scrap it off yearly with a scraper though.

Mike


Any solvent should take it off really easy. I haven't tried, but I would imagine that Power foam would cut it, otherwise use Kerosene


 
[/qb][/QUOTE]Any solvent should take it off really easy. I haven't tried, but I would imagine that Power foam would cut it, otherwise use Kerosene [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]


Try again!! This stuff is tough. Kero, and brush and some elbow-grease works with alot of effort. I wouldn't use any stronger solvent around the O-ring chain!!
 
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Originally posted by Chris142:


Most if not all have roller bearings instead of plain bearings in high wear areas like the crank and cam.


Not the Japanese bikes I'm familiar with.

Which bikes have roller bearings on the crank and cams?
 
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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by satterfi:

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Originally posted by Chris142:


Most if not all have roller bearings instead of plain bearings in high wear areas like the crank and cam.


Not the Japanese bikes I'm familiar with.

Which bikes have roller bearings on the crank and cams?


Just about all modern 4-stroke bikes use journal bearings.


Even the new Harley Davidsons have journal bearings?
 
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[/qb]Just about all modern 4-stroke bikes use journal bearings. [/qb]

Even the new Harley Davidsons have journal bearings? [/QB][/QUOTE]

Yup, but it was designed by Porsche so had better engine designers working on it than a Harley engine would normally get.
 
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Originally posted by XS650:

Just about all modern 4-stroke bikes use journal bearings. [/qb]

Even the new Harley Davidsons have journal bearings? [/QB]

Yup, but it was designed by Porsche so had better engine designers working on it than a Harley engine would normally get. [/QB][/QUOTE]

That's funny/ interesting. Porsche, famous for air cooled flat sixes, designing a water-cooled V twin for a motorcycle company famous for air cooled engines. Although I must say after having test riding a few V-Rods it's one quick bike.
 
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Originally posted by XS650:

Just about all modern 4-stroke bikes use journal bearings.
Even the new Harley Davidsons have journal bearings? [/QB]

Yup, but it was designed by Porsche so had better engine designers working on it than a Harley engine would normally get. [/QB]

That's funny/ interesting. Porsche, famous for air cooled flat sixes, designing a water-cooled V twin for a motorcycle company famous for air cooled engines. Although I must say after having test riding a few V-Rods it's one quick bike. [/QB][/QUOTE]

What about the Heritage Softtail Classic? is it safe to use Series 2000 20W-50 in the crankcase??
 

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What about the Heritage Softtail Classic? is it safe to use Series 2000 20W-50 in the crankcase??
That was an in house job, so probably sticks with 1930's MC engine bearing design.
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Originally posted by XS650:
Just about all modern 4-stroke bikes use journal bearings.

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Even the new Harley Davidsons have journal bearings? [/QB]Yup, but it was designed by Porsche so had better engine designers working on it than a Harley engine would normally get. [/QB]

I'm pretty sure that the Harley Davidson TwinCam 88 still uses bearings. I do know that the 2003 sportsters and buells (not sure about buell blast) used roller bearings. I am not sure about the revolution (porsche designed) engines. I wouldn't say it had better engine designers, just different designers. Harley engineers had been designing 45 degree, air cooled v-twins for years and they needed a high performance water cooled v-twin.

Personally, I would've considered Ducati engineers for designing the engine - but porsche isn't a competitor.

[ February 08, 2004, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: medic ]
 
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Originally posted by XS650:

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What about the Heritage Softtail Classic? is it safe to use Series 2000 20W-50 in the crankcase??
That was an in house job, so probably sticks with 1930's MC engine bearing design.
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pardon? can i use the s2k 20W-50 in there


I'm not sure. Amsoil talks about use in ATV's, but doesn't actually talk about motorcycle applications with the S2k 20w-50. They do recommend the 20w-50 motorcycle oil (AMV) or the regular 20w-50 (ARO), which is the same stuff. IMHO, I would stick with one of these two oils.

You should PM one of the BITOG Amsoil dealers or start a new thread so they see it.
 
I have a '91 GSX-R750 (air cooled) which until 60,000 miles had the original clutch. At 60K we put in a big bore kit (955cc) and replaced the clutch. The big bore kit replaced only the pistons, wristpins and relined the block. The crank, rods, bearings, and everything else is still original. I now have over 100K on this bike with no major mechanical failures. I wore out the second gear dogs, and had to replace both gears. replaced the drum and shift forks as well just because the mileage was so high.

I run Golden Spectro 10W40 and change it every 1,500 miles.

I typically get about 10k out of each chain/sprocket combo. Tires will last two races on the track, or about 1,500 miles on the street.

My other high mileage bike I sold with 124K. It was a honda CBR600F3. I used Golden Spectro in it as well, and changed the oil about every 2K. I pulled the motor apart at about 40K and put in honda kit cams, valves, valve springs, pistons, etc. Used the stock crank, rods and all original bearings. The inside of the motor looked like brand new. The timing chain had stretched out of spec, and was replaced. I never opened the motor again - I raced it on weekends as a CCS Expert southeast region racer, and rode it during the week to work.

I now have a Honda F4i, but I don't think it's going to last so long. The motor has already been apart because of manufacturing defects. It currently has 12K
 
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Originally posted by medic:
I recently read an article about a 70ish year old guy who had over 140k miles on a 1985 Harley Electra-Glide Classic.

I need to edit this. I found the article yesterday. The bike had 410k miles on it and the guy was 82 years old. I guess I'm a bit dyslexic.

If a Harley can go this far, any japanese bike should be able to do the same
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What about the Heritage Softtail Classic? is it safe to use Series 2000 20W-50 in the crankcase??
That was an in house job, so probably sticks with 1930's MC engine bearing design.
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pardon? can i use the s2k 20W-50 in there


I'm not sure. Amsoil talks about use in ATV's, but doesn't actually talk about motorcycle applications with the S2k 20w-50. They do recommend the 20w-50 motorcycle oil (AMV) or the regular 20w-50 (ARO), which is the same stuff. IMHO, I would stick with one of these two oils.

You should PM one of the BITOG Amsoil dealers or start a new thread so they see it.


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anyone else have any comments??
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Originally posted by Blue636:
There was something like this in another forum. I'd be very interested in seeing bikes that have easily made it over 100k and what the owner has done to get it that far. What makes this more interesting is that, aside from proper maintenance and lubrication, motorcycles don't see as many miles as cars because they are more often involved in accidents (whether it is single vehicle or multiple) than cars. Many sportbikes, for example, don't ever see over 40k with the way squids ride nowadays.

You know a comment like "how Squids ride nowadays" is a bunch of BS!!! This must be your first bike, i guess you have never been cut off by some ******* in a car while staying in your lane doing the speed limit... or how about that squid that representative Janklow killed? and you probably never took an MSF course, did you know that 90% of motorcycle accidents are caused by the driver of a CAR? good luck and think about this when you are laid up in the hospital.
 
Don't reply if you're not a rider, as you obviously aren't. Your complete post is irrelevant to how squids ride (wheelies, stoppies, burnouts, high engine speed) and how it is related to the reason for why bikes don't last long due to mechanical failure. Not motorcycle accidents, you moron.

By the way, I've been riding for a long while now and took the MSF course a long time ago. My riding consists of doing miles of twisties on the weekends and hitting lane-splitting traffic to and from work during the weekdays. I log at least 1,800-2,000 miles a month. Don't act like you're a superb and experienced riding because someone might've accidentally veered into your lane one day. And this business about Janklow has nothing to do with motorcycle maintenance or oil - why don't you show a little respect to the motorcycling community and the rider who passed away by not sarcastically calling him a "squid"?

[ February 16, 2004, 01:32 AM: Message edited by: Blue636 ]
 
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Don't reply if you're not a rider, as you obviously aren't. Your complete post is irrelevant to how squids ride (wheelies, stoppies, burnouts, high engine speed) and how it is related to the reason for why bikes don't last long due to mechanical failure. Not motorcycle accidents, you moron.

By the way, I've been riding for a long while now and took the MSF course a long time ago. My riding consists of doing miles of twisties on the weekends and hitting lane-splitting traffic to and from work during the weekdays. I log at least 1,800-2,000 miles a month. Don't act like you're a superb and experienced riding because someone might've accidentally veered into your lane one day. And this business about Janklow has nothing to do with motorcycle maintenance or oil - why don't you show a little respect to the motorcycling community and the rider who passed away by not sarcastically calling him a "squid"?


You are the one that brought up riding and btw young man I have over 20 years of riding under my belt, and I work in surgery so ask me how I know people get slammed by cagers? Also, I happen to be a great rider, care to hit a track day with me because I have had better calamari than you.
 
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