$1,300+ monthly payment????!!!!!!

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There are some guys making a lot of money these days too, but I'd guess they aren't financ
All I know is I'm glad the BITOG collective is so much smarter than the average American consumer. ;)

There's a reverse snobbery thing here of who owned the oldest vehicles the longest.🤘
The guys financing 100k trucks aren't the average American consumer though, they certainly make more money than average.... But they like toys and shiny things and don't want to wait for them! I think for lots of people, the idea that saving money can make you money, isn't something they trust in either. And for some, the chance to trade a few digits in a computer somewhere for an actual impressive truck makes sense to them?
 
Probably because their time is better spent towards classes that can make them a more competitive college applicant.

Those types of classes were filler classes at best. These types of skills can be learnt outside of school; school time is too valuable for those types of course nowadays.
Apparently they werent learned though…
 
There was some news story a couple years ago about the large number of people in Northern Virginia who have 6-figure incomes yet live paycheck-to-paycheck.

I wasn't living paycheck-to-paycheck 20 years ago when I was making a whopping $40k a year here in Northern Virginia...and I had a mortgage payment because I bought a house.
I can almost believe it.

You lose 50% in taxes off the bat, inclusive of fed, state, local, oasdi, sales, property, vehicle, etc…
Friends in NoVA pay massive amounts of money for child care. So it’s quite possible to pay $3k+/mo for child care.
A hoopty at $500/mo payment… x2
Mortgage of a few $k/mo
Retirement savings
Student loans

All of a sudden a $200k/yr household has like $1000/mo for utilities, food, gas, restaurants, vehicle and home repair, vacations, etc. if it’s, say, a family of four, it doesn’t go far.

Just made up numbers, but it’s easy to see how it can happen if you want to actually do anything of substance besides just go to work and loaf around.

Shuffle those numbers around again, and you can see how folks could make a $1300/mo payment work on a vehicle worth half their annual income. Prudence aside…
 
Im still confused, and the OP can fill us in, is this powerstroke f250 XL 4x4 one of one?

Right now on the website a 69k 23 is king ranch version with 0 miles on the odometer....
 
I tell people to find out what the full coverage insurance will cost also before buying. Having a business where you use the truck and can write stuff off would be a good idea.
 
All I know is I'm glad the BITOG collective is so much smarter than the average American consumer. ;)

There's a reverse snobbery thing here of who owned the oldest vehicles the longest.🤘
When I was a lot younger and dumber, my mother ALWAYS told me, (over and over), "Save your money and don't buy a bunch of crap. Because when you get older you're going to need it, and be glad you hung on to it".... She was proven right.

I know because a lot of coworkers my age and older didn't listen to that simple philosophy, and they're still working. However, lucky for them, most are driving trucks a lot newer and nicer than mine.
 
A colleague called them emotional support trucks, and it's pretty true. A lot of folks at the Ship Yard are truck poor so they can look and feel the part.

Then again, those young folk are never going to be able to own land. So why not.

But factor in the tax, cost, and resale, you've basically paid for 3 trucks but only received one.
I know someone like this, he wants to look the part. He can’t afford a home, because of various wrong decisions (like buying trucks like this from day one), and instead he’ll throw a majority of his money into a new truck. His latest one is some sort of brand new gigantic Ford F-250 diesel, loaded, beautiful. He’s also dumped another $3,000-$4,000 into unnecessary “upgrades” into it since then...custom lights, grill, floor mats, light bar, tint, decals. I’m sure there’s more,and I’m sure more will be coming in the next couple years.

And he doesn’t have a commute or use the truck for work. He plows his driveway, that’s it. And like I said, he rents his small house. Good guy - in a way I’d admire him because nothing really bothers him, he’s happy, he’s not stressed. He’s happy go lucky, easy to talk to. Hey, he might be on to something.
 
Good guy - in a way I’d admire him because nothing really bothers him, he’s happy, he’s not stressed. He’s happy go lucky, easy to talk to. Hey, he might be on to something.
Yep. And there are those on the opposite spectrum that are so focused on building wealth that they lead a miserable life (IMO). Somewhere in the middle has always been my goal.

I want to believe that this thread is not about judging individuals who we have no business interpreting their choices, but about the general decline of responsible living in the U.S., from the individual all the way up to organizations, industry, and government. Mostly the fault of us baby boomers ;) . You young-uns don't disappoint me supporting my Social Security payments.
 
If your truck payment is more than your house payment, you might be a redneck.


Might be true in some parts but around here I would imagine a $1000+ vehichle payment plus $2000+ rent payment is the norm. As for house payments, you need some serious income.
 
'65 4-4-2. Yup. Wifey's father bought it new! 96K on the clock.
So you didn't even buy that old POS, it was given to you. You win!

You know I'm thinking about the ones who proudly DD a '98 Camry and their other vehicle is an '87 F150.

People have made stupid money choices forever. I heard it explained one time: Everyone sees what you drive, nobody sees where you live.
 
Yep. And there are those on the opposite spectrum that are so focused on building wealth that they lead a miserable life (IMO). Somewhere in the middle has always been my goal.

I want to believe that this thread is not about judging individuals who we have no business interpreting their choices, but about the general decline of responsible living in the U.S., from the individual all the way up to organizations, industry, and government. Mostly the fault of us baby boomers ;) . You young-uns don't disappoint me supporting my Social Security payments.
I think balance in theory would be most people’s goal, but unfortunately that’s just wishful thinking. Bottom line, enjoy what you can and don’t try to figure out others too much, because believe me, they’re saying the same about you.
 
........... but about the general decline of responsible living in the U.S., from the individual all the way up to organizations, industry, and government. Mostly the fault of us baby boomers ;) .
I'm not sure if you're being serious or not. But I have heard that before, and it's complete hogwash. It's ridiculous to blame a current generations financial shortcomings, on what a past generation did or didn't do.

Things happen in an economy. Sometimes good, and sometimes horrible. It's not because of what an entire generation before did, or didn't do. The WW II generation didn't blame the Great Depression on their parents. There are people in all generations who make bad individual choices. Many during the best of times.

You have people who overspend across the entire economic spectrum. And you always have, and always will. And you also have people who are good with money. Regardless of how easy or hard it becomes to accumulate.

I know several who set themselves up for financial ruin during the housing crash of 2008. They would have been fine had they stayed where they were, and did nothing but go to work, and buy down their present mortgage.

But they ran with the sheep and were slaughtered. A few lost all of their equity and then some, and ended up bankrupt in apartments. No one's fault but their own. Not the bankers, or the real estate agents. "Predator Loans" only work when they can find idiots to prey on. They were a dime a dozen in 2008.

Kids are complaining today that college degrees cost too much. And they very well may. So they go into huge debt with student loans. Why? Don't go to college. That's their choice. No one put a gun to their head. It doesn't automatically mean you're going to end up a ditch digger.

Many wind up coming out, waving a degree in a field they cannot find work in. This happened to a friend of mine's son. He got so depressed he killed himself over it. How is that the fault of the "boomers"? It's obviously not. His father told him not to do it. He didn't listen.

Trade schools today are all but begging for students. Many offer guaranteed job placement upon graduation. Still no takers. People always have options. Some are more desirable than others. But whatever choice you make, you make it on your own, and you live it on your own.... Not off the back of whatever generation preceded you, that you think you can blame it on.
 
I think it is absolutely ridiculous but I wouldn't have the income to do it anyways. But you could spend over 10,000-15,000 a year on a nice vacation(s) or on a vehicle payment .Which is more practical?
 
I think it is absolutely ridiculous but I wouldn't have the income to do it anyways. But you could spend over 10,000-15,000 a year on a nice vacation(s) or on a vehicle payment .Which is more practical?
Both end up with near-zero value after all is said and done. So it’s an experiences vs things comparison.

Ok, maybe the truck is worth $350 scrap at the end.

I have no issue with someone who can afford it having a vehicle at this price point.

But for 99% of the population, there are better things to spend or save on, IMO. That includes anyone that had to buy their home with a mortgage, or buy the vehicle in payments.

And the funny thing with all of it, is if you actually make enough to be able to afford the $100k vehicle, then you don’t need to finance it anyway. Nobody with the actual means of affording such a vehicle is going to think they’re some sort of financial ninja because they financed their vehicle instead of paying outright.
 
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