0w20 Oil With Longest OCI

[JerryBob]

I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD. The manual calls for 0w20. I think I can go that long on a Mobil 1 Filter, but the lowest viscosity Mobil-1 Oil with EP is 5w20. Since I'll be going north instead of south, I'd prefer to stick with 0w20. Do I have any options (other than getting an oil change during the trip) other than Amsoil SS? I am not opposed to it, but I want to consider others, too. Thanks.

 

[lubedude13]

I've had used oil analysis on several oils. The more highway miles you drive the longer ANY oil will last. I personally use amsoil signature 0w20 but have friends that use amsoil xl and seen there uoa at 12000 miles and still be good. They do mainly highway miles. If your driving is more highway than short trips then mobil one is perfectly fine. My choice would be Pennzoil platinum between the two. However I personally use Amsoil but over the counter would be Pennzoil. Kendall full synthetic is another good choice which I've used

 

[fdcg27]

All 0W-20 oils have mostly syn basestocks. If you check the UOA section here, most seem capable of 10K and certainly would be in long trip situations. Use any 0W-20 and rest well.

 

[tc1446]

I'd use the EP 5-20 and not worry about it.

 

[Voltmaster]

Originally Posted By: tc1446

I'd use the EP 5-20 and not worry about it.

+1 thats what i am putting in my Accord ( 5-30 tho ) for winter trip. highway isnt that damanding unless your car is completly full and you speed on highway. I dont really think buying something like amsoil makes sense because there is no deals , no one really carries it. Walmart sells Mobil1 EP for 28ish everyday.Amsoil Sig would cost twice as much .

 

[lubedude13]

For warranty purposes he probably needs to use 0w20

 

[y_p_w]

Originally Posted By: lubedude13

For warranty purposes he probably needs to use 0w20

For warranty purposes, he probably shouldn't go further than 10K miles without changing the oil. I don't think it's that big a deal. Map out about where you might hit maybe 8-9K miles, and find a place that will do it that might fit into the schedule. A lot of dealers have quick service and I'm guessing some will have specials around $40 with 0W-20. I noticed several Honda dealers that did, but I'm not sure of Toyota dealers.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: JerryBob

I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD.

M1 AFE 0W-20 should be up to the task since it seems that you are doing mostly highway miles. I have AFE in my FX4 currently and below is a UOA at 10K with a TBN remaining of 2.2. I am nearing 15K and will do another UOA to see if it can go further or if it is all done. I would run the AFE without hesitation.

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  				  Year: 2010				        Make: Ford		       Model: F-150 FX4
				Engine: 5.4L FFV			Transmission: 6R80			Axle: 9.75 Ford ELD (3.73)
 
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Date:		                   10/13  |   07/13    04/13    11/12   08/12	06/12 |	05/12	02/12	11/11	09/11	07/11	06/11	05/11	03/11	02/11	01/11	10/10	9/10
Oil Brand/Type:			      M1  |    MS5K     MS5K     MS5K    MS5K    MS5K | PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	PU	MC
Oil Viscosity:	                   0W-20  |   5w-20    5W-20    5W-20	5W-20   5W-20 | 5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20	5W-20
API Service:	             	      SN  |      SN       SN       SN	   SN      SN | SM{A}	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM	SM
Oil Filter:		  	      MC  |      MC       MC       MC	   MC	   MC | MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC
Air Filter:		              NG  |      NG       NG       NG	   NG      NG | NG	NG{B}	MC	MC	MC	MC{B}	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC	MC
Lab:		               	   BLKST  |   BLKST    BLKST    BLKST	BLKST   BLKST | BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST	BLKST
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Truck Mileage:	            	 116,433  | 106,265   99,231   89,211  80,927  74,447 |	69,305	62,055	54,575	47,075	39,770	32,280	27,100	21,600	16,600	10,600	4,500	991
Oil Mileage:	               	  10,168  |   7,394   10,020    8,285   6,480	5,142 |	7,250	7,480	7,500	7,305	7,490	5,180	5,500	5,000	6,000	6,100	3,509	991   
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Make-Up Oil:                   	     0.0  |     0.0      0.5      0.5     0.0     0.0 | 0.0     0.25    0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0     0.0
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Aluminum:		               2  |       2	   3        3	    2	    2 |	3	3	5	3	2	2	3	3	6	3	3	3	
Chromium		               1  |       1	   1        1	    1	    1 |	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	0
Iron:			              10  |      10	  16       12	   10      10 |	11	8	13	8	9	7	9	10	18	13	10	18
Copper:			               1  |       2	   2        2	    2	    1 |	2	1	2	2	2	2	3	4	4	5	9	41
Lead:			               0  |	  1	   0        0	    0	    1 |	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2
Tin:			               1  |	  0	   2        1	    4	    0 |	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Molybdenum:		              75  |  	  6	   3        6	    3	   11 |	48	56	46	47	58	55	54	45	47	52	48	42
Nickel:			               0  |	  1	   1        1	    1	    0 |	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0
Manganese:		               1  |	  1	   1        1	    1       0 |	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1	1	1	2	10
Silver:			      	       0  |	  0	   0        0	    0	    0 |	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
Titanium:		     	       2  |      27  	  34       32 	   30	   24 |	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0
Potassium:		     	       0  |	  2	   0        4	    4	    2 |	6	0	6	5	1	0	2	3	4	2	3	14
Boron:			      	      35  |	  9	   3        4	    7	    9 |	91	249	156	144	156	233	244	230	249	278	258	272
Silicon:	             	      14  |	 11	  12       12	   11      12 |	13	11	16	19	21	19	19	17	16	29	45	111
Sodium:			    	      99  |     323	 369      362	  374	  284 |	4	4	7	5	3	3	3	4	4	4	4	9
Calcium:	              	    1236  |    2179	2200     2276	 1954	 2195 |	2647	3168	3003	3053	2941	2900	2814	2613	2740	2911	2706	2203
Magnesium:		      	     768  |	 15	  19       19 	   12	   15 |	17	15	17	17	16	12	12	11	12	12	12	14
Phosphorus:		      	     668  |     697	 706      735	  624	  655 |	688	728	671	668	710	713	676	608	629	691	643	773
Zinc:			       	     784  |	822	 832      797	  738	  765 |	762	820	724	743	861	834	813	675	718	774	752	835
Barium:			       	       0  |	  0	   0        0	    0	    0 |	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	16
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SUS Viscosity @ 210°F		    51.2  |    50.7     51.4     52.3	 52.6    51.5 |	53.5	53.2	52.2	51.7	53.9	52.5	52.9	53.1	52.8	51.5	52.2	49.4
cSt Visc. @ 100°C (UOA)	      	    7.63  |    7.49     7.69     7.96	 8.05	 7.73 |	8.34	8.25	7.93	7.80	8.45	8.04	8.14	8.21	8.12	7.72	7.94	7.09
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VOA Mobil cSt Visc. @ 100°C    	     8.6  |    7.48     7.48     7.48 	 7.48	 7.48 |	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---
MOBIL cSt Visc. @ 100°C        	     8.7  |	8.4      8.4      8.4	  8.4	  8.4 |	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---
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VOA PU cSt Visc. @ 100°C	     ---  |	---      ---      ---	  ---	  --- |	7.62	7.62	7.62    7.62	7.62	7.62	7.62	7.62	7.62	7.62	7.62	---
SOPUS cSt Visc. @ 100°C     	     ---  |	---      ---      ---	  ---	  --- |	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	8.41	---
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Flashpoint in °F (UOA)		     400  |	 400     395      510 	  390     {C} |	415	405	420	415	410	425	405	390	410	390	400	390
MOBIL Flashpoint in °F		     435  |	 446     446      446	  446	  446 |	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---
SOPUS Flashpoint in °F   	     ---  |	 ---     ---      ---	  ---	  --- |	435	435	435	435	435	435	435	435	435	435	435	---
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Fuel %				    <0.5  |	<0.5    <0.5     <0.5	 <0.5	  {C} |<0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5    <0.5
Antifreeze %			     0.0  |	 0.0     0.0      0.0	  0.0	  0.0 |	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	
Water %				     0.0  |	 0.0     0.0      0.2	 <0.0	  0.0 |	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
Insolubles %			     0.1  |	 0.3     0.4      0.4	  0.2     0.1 |	0.3	0.3	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.1
TBN				     2.2  |	 2.5     1.4      2.7	  2.6	  3.7 |	---	---	---	5.4	---	---	5.6	4.8	5.3	9.4	7.5	---
TAN				     4.3  |	 2.3     3.0      2.6	  4.3	  --- |	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---	---
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NOTES:

Acronyms:

BLKST=Blackstone M1=Mobil 1 | MS5K=Mobil Super 5000 | PU=Pennzoil Ultra


{A} Possibly SN in SM bottle; note drop in Calcium
{B} Air filter change; MC=Motorcraft, NG=Napa Gold
{C} Blackstone spilled sample; not enough to test FP and Fuel%

 

[tommygunn]

I believe Castrol Extended Performance (god bottle, previously Edge Titanium/FST) is available in 0w20. It should be good for 15k. BUT, since you're still under warranty, you might not want to exceed beyond the factory OCI. Are you still under warranty?

 

[chubbs1]

M1 AFE has been the most proven 0w20 on BITOG. I would not have any hesitations using any major 0w20. I really like the add pack of Edge FST as tommygunn mentioned.

 

[tig1]

Look at the mileage on both Fords. I use M1 0-20 and do 10K OCIs without a problem. In fact, just today I changed oil in the Fusion. I also use MC filters which hold up very well. Remember the EP has a 15K warranty, but the rest of the M1 line including 0-20 has a 10K warranty. 10K for these oils is a snap for most conditions.

 

[NO2]

Most newer 4 cyl Toyota engines specify 10K OCI under normal conditions. Highway miles are very easy on engines unless you are towing. Toyota 0w20 is also a good choice, cheap for an OEM oil, along with M1, PP, or any other name brand.

 

[gregk24]

Go with TGMO 0w20 for the oil. Fram Ultra, Tough Guard, Mobil 1 are all top notch filters and will go 10K miles.

 

[Roob]

M1 oil filter + TGMO 0w20 = Pure bliss You could always add some Lubegard Bio tech to if you wanted. TGMO can do the 10k OCI with no issues, Lubegard can extend that by 30%, they claim...

 

[synthetic_crazy]

Go with Mobil 1 0W-20 ... it will serve you well!

 

[HangFire]

Mobil 1 warrants their AFE oil for 10K miles, if all is well with your engine then the oil is up to the task.

 

[y_p_w]

Originally Posted By: HangFire

Mobil 1 warrants their AFE oil for 10K miles, if all is well with your engine then the oil is up to the task.

What does that really mean though? It's been noted that it would be extremely difficult to prove anything. I mean - what do you do? Maybe provide a UOA that the oil has a TBN of zero after 10K miles and maybe they send a coupon for 5 quarts of M1? There's one case where someone's engine sludged up on regular uses of Mobil bulk oil at a dealer, and Mobil duked it out with the carmaker, which didn't want to admit that the VDC was abnormally hard on the oil.

 

[jhskier25]

I'd go with Amsoil Signature Series 0w-20. Great oil -- though, a bit pricy -- and it can certainly make it the 10k. You can buy it online at their website. It's a little thicker than most 0w-20s which will make for nice protection in the summer

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: JerryBob

I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD. The manual calls for 0w20. I think I can go that long on a Mobil 1 Filter, but the lowest viscosity Mobil-1 Oil with EP is 5w20. Since I'll be going north instead of south, I'd prefer to stick with 0w20. Do I have any options (other than getting an oil change during the trip) other than Amsoil SS? I am not opposed to it, but I want to consider others, too. Thanks.

You can go with Amsoil SS or XL 0-20. Let me know and I can get you connected to the Preferred Customer (PC) prices, which are a lot lower than some guys here seem to think. Plus delivered to your door is easy to find and super convenient. Amsoil ASM 0W-20 $7.75/qt Amsoil XLZ 0W-20 $5.60/qt

 

[Chris Meutsch]

I'm using M1's version currently in our Pilot. No issues to speak of. Probably 6500 miles out of it, per the MM.