0w20 Oil With Longest OCI

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I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD.

The manual calls for 0w20. I think I can go that long on a Mobil 1 Filter, but the lowest viscosity Mobil-1 Oil with EP is 5w20.

Since I'll be going north instead of south, I'd prefer to stick with 0w20.

Do I have any options (other than getting an oil change during the trip) other than Amsoil SS? I am not opposed to it, but I want to consider others, too.

Thanks.
 
I've had used oil analysis on several oils. The more highway miles you drive the longer ANY oil will last. I personally use amsoil signature 0w20 but have friends that use amsoil xl and seen there uoa at 12000 miles and still be good. They do mainly highway miles.
If your driving is more highway than short trips then mobil one is perfectly fine. My choice would be Pennzoil platinum between the two. However I personally use Amsoil but over the counter would be Pennzoil.
Kendall full synthetic is another good choice which I've used
 
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All 0W-20 oils have mostly syn basestocks.
If you check the UOA section here, most seem capable of 10K and certainly would be in long trip situations.
Use any 0W-20 and rest well.
 
Originally Posted By: tc1446
I'd use the EP 5-20 and not worry about it.


+1

thats what i am putting in my Accord ( 5-30 tho ) for winter trip.

highway isnt that damanding unless your car is completly full and you speed on highway.


I dont really think buying something like amsoil makes sense because there is no deals , no one really carries it.
Walmart sells Mobil1 EP for 28ish everyday.Amsoil Sig would cost twice as much .
 
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Originally Posted By: lubedude13
For warranty purposes he probably needs to use 0w20

For warranty purposes, he probably shouldn't go further than 10K miles without changing the oil.

I don't think it's that big a deal. Map out about where you might hit maybe 8-9K miles, and find a place that will do it that might fit into the schedule. A lot of dealers have quick service and I'm guessing some will have specials around $40 with 0W-20. I noticed several Honda dealers that did, but I'm not sure of Toyota dealers.
 
Originally Posted By: JerryBob
I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD.

M1 AFE 0W-20 should be up to the task since it seems that you are doing mostly highway miles. I have AFE in my FX4 currently and below is a UOA at 10K with a TBN remaining of 2.2. I am nearing 15K and will do another UOA to see if it can go further or if it is all done. I would run the AFE without hesitation.

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Year: 2010 Make: Ford Model: F-150 FX4

Engine: 5.4L FFV Transmission: 6R80 Axle: 9.75 Ford ELD (3.73)



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Date: 10/13 | 07/13 04/13 11/12 08/12 06/12 | 05/12 02/12 11/11 09/11 07/11 06/11 05/11 03/11 02/11 01/11 10/10 9/10

Oil Brand/Type: M1 | MS5K MS5K MS5K MS5K MS5K | PU PU PU PU PU PU PU PU PU PU PU MC

Oil Viscosity: 0W-20 | 5w-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 | 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20 5W-20

API Service: SN | SN SN SN SN SN | SM{A} SM SM SM SM SM SM SM SM SM SM SM

Oil Filter: MC | MC MC MC MC MC | MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC

Air Filter: NG | NG NG NG NG NG | NG NG{B} MC MC MC MC{B} MC MC MC MC MC MC

Lab: BLKST | BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST | BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST BLKST

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Truck Mileage: 116,433 | 106,265 99,231 89,211 80,927 74,447 | 69,305 62,055 54,575 47,075 39,770 32,280 27,100 21,600 16,600 10,600 4,500 991

Oil Mileage: 10,168 | 7,394 10,020 8,285 6,480 5,142 | 7,250 7,480 7,500 7,305 7,490 5,180 5,500 5,000 6,000 6,100 3,509 991

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Make-Up Oil: 0.0 | 0.0 0.5 0.5 0.0 0.0 | 0.0 0.25 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

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Aluminum: 2 | 2 3 3 2 2 | 3 3 5 3 2 2 3 3 6 3 3 3

Chromium 1 | 1 1 1 1 1 | 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0

Iron: 10 | 10 16 12 10 10 | 11 8 13 8 9 7 9 10 18 13 10 18

Copper: 1 | 2 2 2 2 1 | 2 1 2 2 2 2 3 4 4 5 9 41

Lead: 0 | 1 0 0 0 1 | 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2

Tin: 1 | 0 2 1 4 0 | 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Molybdenum: 75 | 6 3 6 3 11 | 48 56 46 47 58 55 54 45 47 52 48 42

Nickel: 0 | 1 1 1 1 0 | 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0

Manganese: 1 | 1 1 1 1 0 | 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 2 10

Silver: 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Titanium: 2 | 27 34 32 30 24 | 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0

Potassium: 0 | 2 0 4 4 2 | 6 0 6 5 1 0 2 3 4 2 3 14

Boron: 35 | 9 3 4 7 9 | 91 249 156 144 156 233 244 230 249 278 258 272

Silicon: 14 | 11 12 12 11 12 | 13 11 16 19 21 19 19 17 16 29 45 111

Sodium: 99 | 323 369 362 374 284 | 4 4 7 5 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 9

Calcium: 1236 | 2179 2200 2276 1954 2195 | 2647 3168 3003 3053 2941 2900 2814 2613 2740 2911 2706 2203

Magnesium: 768 | 15 19 19 12 15 | 17 15 17 17 16 12 12 11 12 12 12 14

Phosphorus: 668 | 697 706 735 624 655 | 688 728 671 668 710 713 676 608 629 691 643 773

Zinc: 784 | 822 832 797 738 765 | 762 820 724 743 861 834 813 675 718 774 752 835

Barium: 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 16

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SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 51.2 | 50.7 51.4 52.3 52.6 51.5 | 53.5 53.2 52.2 51.7 53.9 52.5 52.9 53.1 52.8 51.5 52.2 49.4

cSt Visc. @ 100°C (UOA) 7.63 | 7.49 7.69 7.96 8.05 7.73 | 8.34 8.25 7.93 7.80 8.45 8.04 8.14 8.21 8.12 7.72 7.94 7.09

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VOA Mobil cSt Visc. @ 100°C 8.6 | 7.48 7.48 7.48 7.48 7.48 | --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

MOBIL cSt Visc. @ 100°C 8.7 | 8.4 8.4 8.4 8.4 8.4 | --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

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VOA PU cSt Visc. @ 100°C --- | --- --- --- --- --- | 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 7.62 ---

SOPUS cSt Visc. @ 100°C --- | --- --- --- --- --- | 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 8.41 ---

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Flashpoint in °F (UOA) 400 | 400 395 510 390 {C} | 415 405 420 415 410 425 405 390 410 390 400 390

MOBIL Flashpoint in °F 435 | 446 446 446 446 446 | --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

SOPUS Flashpoint in °F --- | --- --- --- --- --- | 435 435 435 435 435 435 435 435 435 435 435 ---

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Fuel %
Antifreeze % 0.0 | 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 | 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Water % 0.0 | 0.0 0.0 0.2
Insolubles % 0.1 | 0.3 0.4 0.4 0.2 0.1 | 0.3 0.3 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1

TBN 2.2 | 2.5 1.4 2.7 2.6 3.7 | --- --- --- 5.4 --- --- 5.6 4.8 5.3 9.4 7.5 ---

TAN 4.3 | 2.3 3.0 2.6 4.3 --- | --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

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Acronyms:



BLKST=Blackstone M1=Mobil 1 | MS5K=Mobil Super 5000 | PU=Pennzoil Ultra





{A} Possibly SN in SM bottle; note drop in Calcium

{B} Air filter change; MC=Motorcraft, NG=Napa Gold

{C} Blackstone spilled sample; not enough to test FP and Fuel%
 
I believe Castrol Extended Performance (god bottle, previously Edge Titanium/FST) is available in 0w20. It should be good for 15k.

BUT, since you're still under warranty, you might not want to exceed beyond the factory OCI. Are you still under warranty?
 
M1 AFE has been the most proven 0w20 on BITOG. I would not have any hesitations using any major 0w20. I really like the add pack of Edge FST as tommygunn mentioned.
 
Look at the mileage on both Fords. I use M1 0-20 and do 10K OCIs without a problem. In fact, just today I changed oil in the Fusion. I also use MC filters which hold up very well. Remember the EP has a 15K warranty, but the rest of the M1 line including 0-20 has a 10K warranty. 10K for these oils is a snap for most conditions.
 
Most newer 4 cyl Toyota engines specify 10K OCI under normal conditions. Highway miles are very easy on engines unless you are towing. Toyota 0w20 is also a good choice, cheap for an OEM oil, along with M1, PP, or any other name brand.
 
Go with TGMO 0w20 for the oil. Fram Ultra, Tough Guard, Mobil 1 are all top notch filters and will go 10K miles.
 
M1 oil filter + TGMO 0w20 = Pure bliss
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You could always add some Lubegard Bio tech to if you wanted. TGMO can do the 10k OCI with no issues, Lubegard can extend that by 30%, they claim...
 
Originally Posted By: HangFire
Mobil 1 warrants their AFE oil for 10K miles, if all is well with your engine then the oil is up to the task.

What does that really mean though? It's been noted that it would be extremely difficult to prove anything. I mean - what do you do? Maybe provide a UOA that the oil has a TBN of zero after 10K miles and maybe they send a coupon for 5 quarts of M1? There's one case where someone's engine sludged up on regular uses of Mobil bulk oil at a dealer, and Mobil duked it out with the carmaker, which didn't want to admit that the VDC was abnormally hard on the oil.
 
I'd go with Amsoil Signature Series 0w-20. Great oil -- though, a bit pricy -- and it can certainly make it the 10k. You can buy it online at their website. It's a little thicker than most 0w-20s which will make for nice protection in the summer
 
Originally Posted By: JerryBob
I am planning a summer-long trip next summer, that will likely put 10k miles or so on my Toyota Tacoma 4Cyl 4WD.

The manual calls for 0w20. I think I can go that long on a Mobil 1 Filter, but the lowest viscosity Mobil-1 Oil with EP is 5w20.

Since I'll be going north instead of south, I'd prefer to stick with 0w20.

Do I have any options (other than getting an oil change during the trip) other than Amsoil SS? I am not opposed to it, but I want to consider others, too.

Thanks.



You can go with Amsoil SS or XL 0-20. Let me know and I can get you connected to the Preferred Customer (PC) prices, which are a lot lower than some guys here seem to think. Plus delivered to your door is easy to find and super convenient.

Amsoil ASM 0W-20 $7.75/qt

Amsoil XLZ 0W-20 $5.60/qt
 
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