05 Subaru STi Recommendations

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Hi folks. I have a 2005 Subaru Sti, my power mods are a turbo back exhaust w/ high flow cat, cold air intake, and tune (basically stage 2). I use the car as a daily driver (~25 miles a day), but also do a fair amount of autox (16 events last year). I will occasionally do a track day or HPDE.

The car has 27k miles on it, and oil change interval has been about 3000 miles. I have been using Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic. I will be doing a used oil analysis at my next change, but I am wondering whether the M1 is a good choice for my application or if others (RP, amsoil, GC, etc) would provide better lubrication and protection. My location is the Chicago area.
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M1 is fine, but those other oils will also offer great protection if you decide you want to try something different.
 
I'd certainly shy away from the low HTHS 30wt there, and try something a little more robust like a 40wt. Also,I'd try it in another brand because esp. for the price, M1 is thoroughly unremarkable IMO. Note that Japanese manufacturers are a little too economy-minded in their North American oil specs for turbo engines, 5w30 mineral seems to be the one-size-fits-all. You have not even a regular WRX, but an STi producing considerably more torque and power. I would personally use a Synthetic 0/5w40 or a mineral 10/15w40. If I had to stick with 30wt, I'd go with the least spread (10w30 pref HDEO).
 
My local Subaru tell me to use only pennzoils 10w30 with subaru oil filer, and if im using something else it will avoid my warranty, so i just let them change my oils

BTW NEVER EVER EVER SLAM ON SECOND GEAR !!!
 
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Your dealer CAN NOT legally void your warranty if you use other than Pennzoil 10w30 & OEM filters. I would go to http://www.NASIOC.COM site and ask your question. There are some excellent mechanics on that NG, who have many years of experience with STi vehicles.
 
Alright, let me get this out of the way real quick...

Originally Posted By: killagt
My local Subaru tell me to use only pennzoils 10w30 with subaru oil filer, and if im using something else it will avoid my warranty, so i just let them change my oils


Get this in writing from the dealer and then report them to SOA. They'll get chewed for that. The owner's manual gives specific instructions as to what oils (weight and certifications) you should use, and has no mention of brands. That being said, there are some oils that are better than others...and Pennzoil isn't neccessarily the best. Secondly, while studies have shown the Subaru oil filters to actually be top notch (if not the best) in quality, it is illegal for a manufacturer (who actually makes the call on warranty claims...not dealerships) to specify the use of their own oil filter or void your warranty.

Another thing, a manufacturer can not void a warranty, that can only deny a warranty claim. No matter what modification is done to the car, the manufacturer has to be able to prove that the modification done to the vehicle caused the failure (and again, it does not void the warranty on the entire car, just denies the related claim). The one exception is tampering with the odometer. If the odo is tampered with, the warranty can actually be voided.

No matter if you, the dealer, or a 3rd party shop does the oil change (properly), all are valid as long as you have reciepts.

Now back to the OP.

Do not run 5w30 Mobil 1. It has significant shearing problems even in the stock 2.0 WRX motor. I run 10w40 Redline year round in my STi (with a bit of 20w50 in the summer). I don't know how cold it gets where you are at, but if you can run a 5/10w40 year-round, do so. When you track the car, even consider a 50 weight if it isn't too cold outside.

DO:
-run at least 40 weight
-Use full synthetic
-change oil/filter after every 3k
-change oil (not nec. filter) before and shortly after each track day/HPDE
-check oil level bi-weekly (yes, at least twice a week)

Don't:
-run Mobil 1 5w30, ever.
-run less than a 40 weight unless you are in extreme cold and 5w40 is unavailable.

As far as what to run. I have had really good experience with the Redline. It is expensive and a bit of a hassle to acquire though. IIRC, Delo 400 Synthetic and Rotella Synthetic (both 5w40) have been getting good UOA results. I can find the Delo at a Costco 'Business Center' location and the Rotella at a random Wal-Mart in another part of town. I believe Pennzoil Platinum has also been getting good results in our cars.
 
You might want to read the fine print on your warranty. If I am not mistaken, taking the car to the track voids the warranty.
 
Im in chicago and my frind just got a WRx 05'
what auto crosses do you go to, i would be happy to go to one sometime.

btw my friend said he will use a 5-40 for his WRX. his car eats oil
 
Wow, looks like Subaru owners are taking over bitog.
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I concur with running something besides an Energy Conserving xW30.
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Originally Posted By: coffee
Just use Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 and it will exceed your warranty and be best for your car.

There aren't very many used oil analysis on Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 in Subaru turbo's, but here's one in an STI.

I realize that this is only one UOA, but these 2.5 turbo's might benefit from a more robust oil, IMO, given the way that they're driven.
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Eddie and Shemoves are right. According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act if the dealer specifies a certain oil or filter, they must provide it free of charge.
 
Originally Posted By: Bulli
Im in chicago and my frind just got a WRx 05'
what auto crosses do you go to, i would be happy to go to one sometime.

btw my friend said he will use a 5-40 for his WRX. his car eats oil


I autocross with Chicago Region SCCA, Tri-State, and some Milwaukee region. There are still spots open for this weekend's autocross school at Route 66 if you are interested.

Sounds like a 40 weight is in order, even though I have not had oil consumption issues. Will post up a used oil analysis from my next OC.
 
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From my reading and experience, the turbo scoob motors do like, if not need a more robust oil. It is interesting that the lowest weight oil suggested in the manual, no matter how cold it is outside, is a 5w30, yet it only needs to get up to 0 degrees F to allow the use of a 10w40.
 
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