02 Accord V6AT RLI ATF 7883 OCI 127934 Total Dyson

[benjamming]

Code:
ATF used RLI ATF RLI ATF AMSOIL ATF AMSOIL ATF

Sample Date 2009-Sep-20 2008-Nov-7 2008-Apr-27 2007-Sep-11

Miles on oil 7,883 2,759 2,998 15,018

Miles on car 127,934 99,013 86,991 75,011

Make-up oil None None None None

% tested fluid: 98% 87% 95% 63%

Lab: Dyson Dyson Dyson Dyson



Wear Metals:

Iron: 20 11 22 104

Copper: 47 26 4 18

Tin: 0 0 0 0

Lead: 1 0 0 2

Chromium: 0 0 0 1

Nickel: 0 0 0 0

Aluminum: 28 15 36 118

Titanium: 0 1 0 0

Silver: 0 0 0 0



Additive Metals:

Calcium: 226 140 87 389

Magnesium: 1 4 11 123

Zinc: 9 9 19 159

Phosphorus: 205 228 454 239

Barium: 0 0 0 0

Molybdenum: 0 0 0 0

Antimony: 0 0 0 1



Contaminant Metals:

Silicon: 8 7 8 24

Sodium: 8 11 10 8

Boron: 92 103 189 138

Potassium: 0 0 0 0

Vanadium: 0 0 0 0



Physical & Other Tests:

Viscosity 40C: 24.1 27.6 29.4 27.3

Viscosity 100C: 5.5 5.9 6.4 5.9

TAN: 0.72 0.94 2.34 1.13

Flashpoint: 330 360 385 355

Oxidation: 138 135 55 58

Nitration: 5 4 7 6

KF Water: 299 313 555 306

TBN: 0.3 0.2 1.4 0.6

Fuel: 1.20 0.876 0.492 0.953

Soot: 0 0 0 0

Glycol: 0 0 4.04 2.77

VI: 175 166 179 174

Sulfate: 105 98 62 59


Major shearing. Lack of fluid flow. Typical 6th generation Honda 4-speed B7XA AT.
Calcium is off so I wonder about that.
Replaced with RLI ATF.
I will run the next interval 7500 miles (sans KABLAMO would be nice).

 

[The Critic]

Wow, 127k on a Honda V6 auto. Is the transmission still functioning properly?

 

[benjamming]

It still shifts ok just not as precise. It has somewhat of a whine during driving. No leaks.

 

[unDummy]

Viscosity and flash point are low.

Are you flushing or doing drain/refills?

 

[benjamming]

Drain & refill.

 

[dkryan]

Why not a full flush, then take a sample after 12k miles and have Terry analyze it?

I just acquired a 2005 Accord V6 with 22k miles on it. I'm T-Tec flushing the OEM tranny fluid with RLI and crossing my fingers.

If I wasn't paying for new replacement windows and new doors in our house, I'd trade that car for a Genesis or a 2010 Accord.
I know a tranny is cheaper than a new car, but then again, with this model tranny, maybe not.

 

[dnewton3]

Came across this UOA when I was searching something else.

Must admit, I'm confused; please enlighten me how fuel can be present in several samples of ATF?

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Came across this UOA when I was searching something else.

Must admit, I'm confused; please enlighten me how fuel can be present in several samples of ATF?
Must be a Honda specific trait!!!

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Came across this UOA when I was searching something else.

Must admit, I'm confused; please enlighten me how fuel can be present in several samples of ATF?


Well first it is not fuel! It is aromatic content in the RLI ATF. Remember that the fuel result from the lab that Terry uses is based upon an FTIR measurement which looks at a certain wavelength range. This aromatic content has an IR signature in that range so it reports it as fuel.