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In the late 70's, I remember the old timers claiming it was fantastic oil. Maybe becouse it was a multi blend?

Interesting, I wonder why the lower moly count on sl. Anybody here know the moly count on this oil for sj?

Thanks for all the replys. This dodge filler neck was on my mind constantly. All while running mobil 1 for 20k. The reason I wrote this post was to consider very short oci's on dino with the best ad pack. I am still a little confused as to which oil is best suited. Seems group II dino makes more...

Thats what I was thinking from the uoa section. One voa post ran a test which said 80 ppm, I wasn't clear if that was the sl version

Hey guys. Quick question. Searching through the voa boards, Seen conflicting reports on moly count. Does the sm rated havoline 5w30 dino have 80 ppm of moly or 300? Thanks for the reply

This is my point. Is it the base stock, and not the additive?

Ron AKA, I agreed that a group II oil with a strong add pack MAY be better than synthetic. Semi synthetic put up some strong numbers in the voa section. Couldn't an oil which contains higher calcium, magnesium, silicone, with shorter oci's do the job? Am I hearing that it's the oil, and not...

Thanks for the reply Terry. Will stick with synthetic with shorter oci.

OK guys. Just got off the phone with mobil. He said stick with synthetic for a cleaner engine. The truck and suv 5w30 has more oxidation resistance, slightly different add pack. Also just change pcv valve, brought up that was the problem with toyota engines. Tried to get out some info on sodium...

Will most likely do auto-rx sxg6, but until I can get the valve cover off and see inside, I won't do anything for now. Will be curious to see if mobil recommends synthetic or dino for cleaning (since for 20k I ran there synthetic 5w30)

I think what Ron AKA was thinking was not all synthetics will clean up an engine (thats the way I took it) as well as dino. sxg6, do we know for all certain synthetic cleans better than dino? Maybe they do. Thats why I searched all voa in the first place, to see if there was a common link in add...

I was thinking that too, Rob AKA. Don't know if a higher group oil is the answer.

Thanks guys. I think I'll call mobil tomorrow, see if I can get an answer from them. Will post results

I agree sm oils are not telling the story of there addpack on voa, but rather uoa tells us the storys of how these oils perform overall. With the trend of lower calcium, magnesium, zddp in newer oil, perhaps an oil with higher sodium could be the answer, (I'm afraid I can only speculate on this)

Same bike, same thought currently 4k on mine with 1500k on mobil 1 10w40mxt. I'm draining with dino 10w40 supertech with st filter. (just for added piece of mind)

I have an 03 ram 4.7 excellent engine. Ran a search on past posts of this engine on bitog, found out I wasn't alone on the filler neck getting gunked with sludge. I decided to do some research on voa post for a good dino with possibly higher detergent properties. Couldn't come to my own...

Do we have any clues on the sm rated oil with extra sodium? I was always under the impression calcium, magnesium were part of the detergent properties of sl oil.

Searching through voa of new sm oils, wondering if sodium may be involved for sludge protection. I believe silicone helps with anti-foaming? I see castrol and many others claiming to prevent sludge. What should I look for on these voa's for the best protection?

Hello. Searched this post. Was wondering if anyone has ran this oil in there mc. Currently running mobil 1 10w40 mxt. With the amount of sheering involved with all mc oil, may be beneficial to run dino, change often. Thoughts? 05 vtx 1300

I didn't think so either. Seeing the dreaded sludge/foam in the oil cap, I was curious if a higher grade oil would help prevent that, currently running 5w30 supertech synthetic with 4k oci.