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. Bull! High quality is not a thing that shall pass. .

. Right. I never understood going cheap with motorcycle oil. The above mentioned brands are great choices. If you want to spend a bit more, HPL makes a ATV/MC specific oil, wet clutch friendly, for your needs. It does not appear on their website so you have to contact them through their website...

. I’m a retired jazz/commercial musician of 48 years and thousands of gigs. I had to look up Gary Numan. Not a genre I would be familiar with.

. What genre? Era?

. I’m pretty sure I would. .

. Down in the park? .

. I am surprised you can’t find HPL in the grade you want. They offer alot of different grades. .

. So what’s the reason? Is a BMW dry clutch twin anymore advanced of an engine than one of their automobiles? I don’t know. I do know that a shared system has plenty of crud in the oil at 600 miles (or less) as I have seen it with my own two eyes. The initial 600 miles service on any...

. Shel, are you a motorcyclist? What exactly is it that you are wanting to know? I’m telling you, the shared system is the reason. Clutch material, gears, and engine. That is potentially alot of crap to remove from the oil, so that is the reason for the early change. Just think about it for a...

. Most motorcycles have a shared system. Crankcase and transmission use the same oil so that is why they call for an early oil change. After that it can be anywhere from 6K to 10K depending on manufacturer. Harley Davidson big twins and Moto Guzzi twins are two motorcycles that come to mind that...

. Now that’s funny! .

. To Win-Over-Kooky-Eggheads. .

. My guess would be….………ZERO. .

. What’s Trader Joe’s? .

. What’s Bumble tuna? .

. I understand, but it’s not like it is horribly high priced. I only mentioned it because there seems to be folks interested in trying it. Heck, I use HPL so I pay through the nose for oil. Sort of, because I go at least 12,000 miles between changes and sometimes 15,000. I realize too, that I...

. 20 quarts at $6.50 or $7.50 per qt depending on which one chosen. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

. The Amazon Idemitsu store has a 5 qt, case of 4, 5w20 for $129.99 and 5w30 5 qt, case of 4 for $149.99. Those are great prices. .

. Let your fingers do the walking……..search. .

. Hint. Check out his thread in the motorcycle lubrication section. It’s a doozy.