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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4620661
01/01/18 02:55 PM
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East Mountains, NM
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I probably have about the same area to remove snow from as the OP.
For about 5 years, I used a snowblower.
A year ago, I bought a used Honda Foreman 4X4 and put a 60" blade and a winch on it.
Much better solution, in my book.
[censored].....I plow a 1/4 mile of road now, in the same time it took me to just snowblow my driveway.
And the ATV has other uses. The snowblower.......Well, it can only blow snow.

Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4620720
01/01/18 03:43 PM
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Back in 1991 a place I worked for had a Cub-Cadet riding lawn tractor that had a PTO (power take off) connection on the front of it. They had a big rotating brush that went on the front that cleared snow very well.

Look for some kind of riding mower with a PTO on the front and either a two stage snow thrower, or a big rotating brush.


Boy will I be happy when ALL vehicles on public roads are autonomous.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4620754
01/01/18 04:08 PM
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I've always thought snow plows were a compromise, because of having to find a place to put the snow (over and over and over and over again)

I always wished I owned a snowblower in those days, but oh well.

A friend of mine in Fargo does professional snowblowing, and he always uses top-of-the-line Simplicity or Ariens.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4620771
01/01/18 04:30 PM
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I would move south for the winter,,,lol


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4620780
01/01/18 04:39 PM
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What are your rooflines like? I have a detatched garage but both its and the house's rooflines slope together and dump in a 15-foot-wide "valley" between them. I knew that building the garage but the alternative was having the snow dump in front of the bay doors.

That said I use a snowthrower in a valiant attempt to keep a walkway open between garage and house for as long as possible. Eventually I get an icy mess and just walk on top of it. Sometimes my outdoor cat can climb this pile onto my roof and look in my 2nd story windows. LOL

I just got a full size plow truck. Nothing handles the icy/ slushy end-of-drive better. It takes some creativity backing over snow that I want to plow "out" and across-the-road. Snowthrowers just make snow go "away".

The working man around here always has a snowblower, typically a 8 hp, 24 incher.

Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: irv] #4620845
01/01/18 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: irv




A 200' driveway with a single stage non-propelled blower? Not even once.

An ATV or lawn tractor with a plow will be way faster than a walk-behind blower. How much snow and how often do you get it? If you need a lawn tractor to mow with anyway that might answer your question.


Reread my post again. I alluded to it not likely being big enough, but more info is required first. I agree, with the length of his drive, any snowblower/person will likely be taxed by the time they are done, but comparing this little sucker (not as little as you think, however) to my neighbors big walk behind, I am done my same size driveway in less than half the time it takes him.
I have noticed, after talking to a few of my neighbors about my snowblower, many more in my neighborhood are now using them.
Those big honking, old school, walk behinds are no longer needed this day and age when something a 1/3 of their size/cost is available that does just as a good of a job.

Thinking further now, and needing more info/pics of what the OP is up against, maybe even a small/mid size P/U with a plow on the front might be an even better option, provided he has room to get rid of the snow, a place to store it, etc, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bOshJ_frWI


Irv,

I don't know where are you in Oshawa, but when the plows come down my street they dump all the wet and heavy snow and ice at the bottom of the driveway. That single stage does nothing on that stuff. I had one of those and had to get rid of it and get myself a dual stage.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: JC1] #4620890
01/01/18 06:19 PM
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
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Originally Posted By: JC1
Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: irv




A 200' driveway with a single stage non-propelled blower? Not even once.

An ATV or lawn tractor with a plow will be way faster than a walk-behind blower. How much snow and how often do you get it? If you need a lawn tractor to mow with anyway that might answer your question.


Reread my post again. I alluded to it not likely being big enough, but more info is required first. I agree, with the length of his drive, any snowblower/person will likely be taxed by the time they are done, but comparing this little sucker (not as little as you think, however) to my neighbors big walk behind, I am done my same size driveway in less than half the time it takes him.
I have noticed, after talking to a few of my neighbors about my snowblower, many more in my neighborhood are now using them.
Those big honking, old school, walk behinds are no longer needed this day and age when something a 1/3 of their size/cost is available that does just as a good of a job.

Thinking further now, and needing more info/pics of what the OP is up against, maybe even a small/mid size P/U with a plow on the front might be an even better option, provided he has room to get rid of the snow, a place to store it, etc, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bOshJ_frWI


Irv,

I don't know where are you in Oshawa, but when the plows come down my street they dump all the wet and heavy snow and ice at the bottom of the driveway. That single stage does nothing on that stuff. I had one of those and had to get rid of it and get myself a dual stage.


The only time I usually have problems is when the plow has come by and I didn't know it. If it gets a chance to freeze, (that wet, heavy sh*t, regular snow is never a problem) then for sure, it is definitely a workout for it and sometimes it's a no go, but that is usually a rarity for me.

I am not saying they are a great choice for everyone, but with the snow we get around here, anyways, it is more than enough, by far for me. cheers

My 78 yr Father also has one and he lives on a busy street here in Oshawa as well but I've never heard of him complaining about it.
I know he likey runs into the same situation as you occasionally, but like I said, if he does, he never mentions it.

Was your's a Toro, JC1 or something different? Truthfully, I have seen those MTD's or CDN Tire models in action and, imo, they aren't worth 5 cents.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4621159
01/01/18 09:45 PM
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The average annual snowfall where I'm at is 38". I didn't know Simplicity made snow throwers, thanks for the info.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4622049
01/02/18 07:15 PM
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
The average annual snowfall where I'm at is 38". I didn't know Simplicity made snow throwers, thanks for the info.


If you have the means, Skyactiv, you should fab one of these up. Pretty ingenious if you ask me. cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpme2Q8-HMc


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: dave123] #4632376
01/12/18 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: dave123
I have no clue but will a blade on a atv move 10+ inches of wet heavy snow personally I don't think it would.
You are correct Dave. I use an ATV in Vermont and I can say for absolute certain they can not. Powder snow they will move tons of it just make sure you move it far away. When wet forget it.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: littleant] #4632862
01/12/18 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: littleant
You are correct Dave. I use an ATV in Vermont and I can say for absolute certain they can not. Powder snow they will move tons of it just make sure you move it far away. When wet forget it.


First of all, hello fellow Vermonter!!

I only saw it mentioned once in this thread, unless I missed something, but what about mounting a plow on a vehicle you own, or purchasing a vehicle with an existing plow that may just be a yard/errand truck?

I have a driveway that sounds similar and can break down some observations I've made. Let's say that these figures are for when there is about three to four inches of snow on the ground:

Hand shoveling: takes the most time (figure at least four hours with a couple of short breaks), cheapest, can be done at any time during the storm, most likely to cause a bodily injury, least likely to cause property damage

Snowblower(24 inch, two-stage): less time than shoveling (about 2 hours to get my driveway done right), cheaper and easier to move if it breaks compared to an ATV or truck, ideally done with at least a few inches of snow (as someone mentioned above), slightly less likely to get hurt than shoveling by hand, possible property damage from hitting unseen objects, tearing up lawn, etc.

ATV with plow (Suzuki 4x4 w/5 foot blade): less time than snowblowing (about 45 minutes), cheaper than a truck and easier to move if it breaks down, can be done with up to about ten inches of accumulated snow (handling starts to become an issue), less chance of injury, slighlty less maneuverable/nimble than a snowblower, similar property damage concerns as snowblower, fun and practical any time of the year

Truck with 7.5 foot plow: fastest (about 20 minutes if I plow with the storm every 3-4 inches or so), most comfortable, least capable of precise/close-quarter maneuvers, most expensive (unless you plow people for money), most capable of causing lots of property damage very quickly (can't always feel when you are running something over), most difficult to move if you break down

Having just typed that and thought it over in my mind...my vote goes for ATV with plow or snowblower attachment. Truly the best blend of practicality, effective snow moving, comfort, safety, and maintenance.

Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4634446
01/14/18 11:11 AM
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I own a 2012 Polaris Ranger 800 HP (side by side ATV) 4x4 with a 72 inch snowblade.. about the only thing better is a pickup truck with a snowblade.. I also have a 1/4 mile long driveway.. so.. your intended purpose will apply.


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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4643085
01/22/18 04:11 PM
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I am posting in response to the OP's post...

optimally drain the old fuel out, refill with fresh fuel spiked with K100 MG+, run machine for a few minutes to get new fuel through the system, and take it from there; K100 is the best additive I have used for storage & spiking stale fuel to get good ingnition after storage! if you are stuck with old fuel and can't disconnect fuel line connections to drain the entire tank then siphon out what you can, put in K100 MG+, fill with new fuel, let sit a few hours/overnight, and attempt a start up! if the machine runs then take it out for a good steady 45 minutes to 1 hour to get the spiked fuel run through the system and allow the K100 to clean out some of the deposits in the carburetor/injectors, combustion chamber, and on the valves

Last edited by kmrcstintn; 01/22/18 04:12 PM.

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Re: ATV with a plow or a snow thrower? [Re: skyactiv] #4644175
01/23/18 05:09 PM
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disregard my previous feedback...posted in wrong thread!


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