Zimmerman Trial

[coolbird101]

He will be found not guilty, witness puts martin on top of him punching away when the shot went off.
This is what happens when two tools meet head on. The best part is how our country's biggest racist's use these moments as a platform to get there mug in the news and start riots and such.
"Can I get an Amen"?

 

[Philth]

Originally Posted By: coolbird101
He will be found not guilty, witness puts martin on top of him punching away when the shot went off.
This is what happens when two tools meet head on. The best part is how our country's biggest racist's use these moments as a platform to get there mug in the news and start riots and such.
"Can I get an Amen"?


Sad. I hope it's not true.

 

[gathermewool]

Originally Posted By: Philth
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Originally Posted By: Philth
Personally, I believe acquit solely on the basis that the prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt any of the charges.

Sure, the prosecution has provided theory, but to me, there is absolutely zero indisputable evidence indicating he commited a crime of murder 2 or manslaughter.


Agree!

However, defendant has learned a hard lesson as he should have backed off sooner. Ordinary citizens cannot be be (initially) on the offense as law enforcement can. They must remain on the defense until a life is threatened or in danger.

Backing off and observing the situation from a greater distance was prudent in this case.

IF you (the citizen) can remove yourself from the threat, then prevention is much better than redemption.


Sooner!? He should have minded his own freaking business, as he was directed to. Regardless of the verdict, this guy is an idiot.


Directed by a 911 operator. A person who cannot issue a lawful order. That response is a classic ploy to ensure a citizen who is reporting the suspicious activity, doesn't get hurt.


Do you think any one would have directed him otherwise? Well, Zimmerman says he was having his butt handed to him, and had to shoot this kid to defend himself. Claaaaaassic...

 

[MrOctober44]

A Young Man is DEAD! Walking Home? And y`all Talking about Aquit! By the way isn't this a Car site? If it was your kid it would be a different Story!!

 

[rshaw125]

This should never come to trial. Not guilty. As one of the Police Officers said ( since fired) about Trayvon 'live like a thug die like a thug'.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: rshaw125
This should never come to trial. Not guilty. As one of the Police Officers said ( since fired) about Trayvon 'live like a thug die like a thug'.




Sad but true. Blame the music,blame the parents,blame his friends,blame the victim.......

 

[Falken]

Amen, if you use your high-profile celebrity status to ONLY push the agenda of race, and only your race, you are a racist just as bad as any other.

Skin color doesn't make racism okay for some and not okay for others.

A wannabe police officer shot a wannabe thug.

Sad thing is, Martin broke the rules first. There was never any mention of Martin having a beaten up face or wounds of any kind that happened before he was shot.

Zimmerman is mis-guided but I slightly sympathize more with an over-zealous do-gooder than wannabe trash.

Also, the judge and media were VERY biased against Zimmerman. The Martin that beat up Zimmerman was a hulk compared to Zimmerman.

But, the media only showed grade school photos of Martin, and the judge seemed to toss out any evidence or testimony that supported Zimmerman.

It was ok for Martin to be racist, and certain communities want Zimmerman to be painted as the racist.

Had Zimmerman used the n-word and had it recorded at any point during this altercation he'd already be in jail for first degree murder.

 

[ottotheclown]

No matter what "Zimm" gotta think of the salad bar now. At the rate he gained weight this time next year he will be 400lbs.

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: MrOctober44
A Young Man is DEAD! Walking Home? And y`all Talking about Aquit! By the way isn't this a Car site?


If it were only that simple.

First, I agree with the posts above, we don't actually have ALL the facts.

Here is what we do know about TM's character. He was thugish, smoked dope, was a fighter, was kicked out of his home due to bad behavior and he was previously found with burglary tools.

GZ was not much better. And his behavior led directly to the death of a thuggish person. There is nothing good about any of this.

If I'm walking around and a neighborhood watchman pays a visit, I'll introduce myself, produce ID if required and make friends. And, there was never a time in my life where I'd pick a fight with someone, as TM clearly did. It's not in my character, and it's probably not in yours.

So, my guess, GZ will be acquitted of all charges.

 

[SteveSRT8]

I only hope that the legal system is not perverted further. The only reason this went to trial at all was political pressure and media bias/agenda.

per Z's account he had backed off and was confronted as he attempted to return to his vehicle. Testimony and evidence corroborates his story. Florida law allows deadly force even if you started the altercation if you genuinely fear for your life. If one of these thug types get you on the ground they will kick you in the head until you are either dead or wish you were.

Z was no manly man, he definitely was no match for his attacker. I can't help but think I may have done the same thing under the same circumstances. He had to be very very afraid.

 

[NHHEMI]

Verdict "should be"( based on what I have seen and read about the events and evidence ) = NOT GUILTY

However, in this country many times we get a veridct that makes NO sense and it would not surprise me if he is actually found guilty because a "poor innocent black kid" was killed. Someone has to pay for that outrage.

If he is found NG just watch the media circus that will unfold with the likes of J. Jackson and A. Sharpton spouting off about how evil Whitey is( even though Zimmerman is NOT white as was pointed out by another member - media and racists on the black side try and say he is ). Most likely blacks in that community will riot and destroy their own neighborhood in the process. Just sad.

 

[morepwr]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Acquittal. Initially the police declined to pursue the case based on lack of evidence. Only after an uproar did the ball roll. The bad thing about an acquittal is I see something like the LA riots happening after based on all the build up on both sides.


Exactly what I am thinking will happen.

 

[MrOctober44]

So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!

 

[MrOctober44]

Acquittal. Initially the police declined to pursue the case based on lack of evidence. Only after an uproar did the ball roll. The bad thing about an acquittal is I see something like the LA riots happening after based on all the build up on both sides.

Exactly what I am thinking will happen.

That I so TRUE!!

 

[MuzzleFlash40]

Originally Posted By: MrOctober44
So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


None of the charges they are wanting fit. He was not the only bad person in the world, but at his size he was no "kid". GZ acted foolishly but did nothing illegal, nor did he do anything to warrant TM to attack him.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: MrOctober44
So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


Unless you were there and watched him murder TM and NOT shoot him in self defense how can you be so sure he did it and deserves to be punished? I have seen NOTHING that definitively shows he murdered TM vs killed him in self defense.

Our legal system works on the premis of innocent until PROVEN guilty. To be proven guilty it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. There is more evidence suggesting it WAS self defense than not. That right there is reasonable doubt and the only just and proper verdict would be not guilty.

People in this country are too caught up in the "someone has to pay" mentallity unfortunately. Doesn't matter if the person really did it to some either. Just that someone pay. If someone gets accused they fixate on them and almost NOTHING will ever change their minds about their guilt or innocence.

Like those poor Duke Lacrosse players falsely accused of rape. Many people will go to their graves thinking they got away with something even though their is definitive proof they did not do it. The desire for justice and vengence over rides their common sense. Media frenzy and racist outrage from black community "leaders"(

)lead to those arrests going forward when they shouldn't have and the same has taken place with Zimmerman. Facts and evidence are not driving this prosecution.

No one is saying Zimmerman is an angel. However, is he a murder or an idiot who got into a bad situation and then had to defend himself? To many people he will forever be a murderer regardless of the verdict and lack of real evidence showing murder.

From what I have seen and heard the later is more likely and the only way I could vote as a juror would be not guilty.

 

[MrOctober44]

Originally Posted By: MuzzleFlash40

So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


None of the charges they are wanting fit. He was not the only bad person in the world, but at his size he was no "kid". GZ acted foolishly but did nothing illegal, nor did he do anything to warrant TM to attack him.

I don't know what you talking about! that was a 17 year old Kid! DEAD on the ground. Bunch of you guy`s act like it the 1960s this is 2013!!

 

[MrOctober44]

Originally Posted By: NHHEMI

So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


Unless you were there and watched him murder TM and NOT shoot him in self defense how can you be so sure he did it and deserves to be punished? I have seen NOTHING that definitively shows he murdered TM vs killed him in self defense.

Our legal system works on the premis of innocent until PROVEN guilty. To be proven guilty it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. There is more evidence suggesting it WAS self defense than not. That right there is reasonable doubt and the only just and proper verdict would be not guilty.

People in this country are too caught up in the "someone has to pay" mentallity unfortunately. Doesn't matter if the person really did it to some either. Just that someone pay. If someone gets accused they fixate on them and almost NOTHING will ever change their minds about their guilt or innocence.

Like those poor Duke Lacrosse players falsely accused of rape. Many people will go to their graves thinking they got away with something even though their is definitive proof they did not do it. The desire for justice and vengence over rides their common sense. Media frenzy and racist outrage from black community "leaders"(

)lead to those arrests going forward when they shouldn't have and the same has taken place with Zimmerman. Facts and evidence are not driving this prosecution.

No one is saying Zimmerman is an angel. However, is he a murder or an idiot who got into a bad situation and then had to defend himself? To many people he will forever be a murderer regardless of the verdict and lack of real evidence showing murder.

From what I have seen and heard the later is more likely and the only way I could vote as a juror would be not guilty.
So we got a lot of Idiot walking the street Now!!!

 

[MuzzleFlash40]

Originally Posted By: MrOctober44
Originally Posted By: MuzzleFlash40

So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


None of the charges they are wanting fit. He was not the only bad person in the world, but at his size he was no "kid". GZ acted foolishly but did nothing illegal, nor did he do anything to warrant TM to attack him.

I don't know what you talking about! that was a 17 year old Kid! DEAD on the ground.


You may not "know" but I do. He may be 17 years old, but he has the size of a full grown man! I've been a Deputy for over 7 years. Trust me trying to fight someone his size with the stamina of his age is harder than you can ever imagine! He is also old enough to know better. His death is tragic, but no ones fault but his own. He attacked first, he should have called 911 and told them that GZ was harassing him if that was the case.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: MuzzleFlash40
Originally Posted By: MrOctober44
So? Steve Zimmerman should Walk with no Charge! you full of it, you making it like he the on bad kid in the World!


None of the charges they are wanting fit. He was not the only bad person in the world, but at his size he was no "kid". GZ acted foolishly but did nothing illegal, nor did he do anything to warrant TM to attack him.


Very well put.