Zimmerman Trial Thread Locked

[Philth]

Any way to hold people personally accountable for their actions, deleting their irrelevant posts, and keeping a good discussion going?

You probably can see who locked it as well, yes?

 

[Rand]

That doesnt usually happen around here

you get the warning PM and a random mod/admin locks it.

bad people take vacations after multiple warnings usually.


So what do people think about the fact that the jury cant see messages and pictures from trayvon's phone?

Texts about fighting, buying a gun, phones of him? holding a gun. He was high on weed.

We all know 17yr old ""kids"" are perfect angels right??

 

[Philth]

Originally Posted By: Rand
That doesnt usually happen around here

you get the warning PM and a random mod/admin locks it.

bad people take vacations after multiple warnings usually.


That's unfortunate.

 

[Falken]

Philth, this is a commercial site and we are given a lot of leeway to keep people from leaving.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: Philth
Any way to hold people personally accountable for their actions, deleting their irrelevant posts, and keeping a good discussion going?

You probably can see who locked it as well, yes?


I'll answer the last first.. No way to see who locks it.

The problem with removing the posts is that if members quote the post that gets removed then everything starts getting removed (or the majority of the thread) and it becomes hard to follow. Then someone sees some comment without the orginal one and fires off something that ticks another member off and we spend a lot of time with threads.

Normally we try to catch it early and talk to the person with the issue (if we are notified right away and get to it) But when its pages and pages it will most of the time get locked up.

Its one of the reasons why we stay away from politics, Some folks get disrespectful towards others and it tears the board down.

If someone is being disrespectful towards another member, they can expect time off from the board.

Take care, Bill

 

[Philth]

Thanks for the reply, Bill.

 

[NightRiderQ45]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: tamedcowboy
Yeah, it's a sad. I bet both men wish they could take back their actions.


In his interview with Sean Hannity, Sean asked Zimmerman if he would have done anything different that night. Zimmerman said no, and that it was "God's plan".

He doesn't wish he would have stayed in his car, he doesn't wish one of them wouldn't have been there, nothing. This is what really irks me about this whole thing - he has absolutely no remorse for killing a kid.
Exactly. He is scum. People talk about Zimmerman's injuries to his head and face...what do you expect when you are stalking someone. The kid was fighting for his life. People say that Zimmerman stood his ground, so why is it so hard for people to grasp the concept that Trayvon was standing his ground? He kept running away from Zimmerman, Zimmerman kept approaching, so he confronted Zimmerman. Zimmerman screaming for help?? Yeah right. So the defense wants me to believe the guy who had a loaded gun on him was REALLY screaming for help. This makes plenty of sense. Most people with common sense will determine the truth and hopefully the jury will be able to also.

Side note, Zimmerman's friend Taffe is a useless thug. I can't stand to watch him on tv. He is so disrespectful to women.

 

[spackard]

Some interesting bits posted on http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/

- Former Sanford, FL police chief (Bill Lee) alleges he was fired for not charging Zimmerman

- Justice department spends several thousand dollars helping organize anti-Zimmerman protests
The Community Relations Service (CRS), a unit of DOJ, reported expenses related to its deployment in Sanford to help manage protests between March and April 2012,according to documents obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch.

 

[LeakySeals]

What is happening right now? Is the state and judge adding additional charges at the end of the trial for a different offense?

 

[Philth]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
What is happening right now? Is the state and judge adding additional charges at the end of the trial for a different offense?


They are trying to tack on 3rd degree murder charges based on child abuse.

 

[javacontour]

The best description in the other thread was you had the intersection of two wanna-be's. A wanna be thug and a wanna be cop.

It ended badly for both in my classic British understatement

 

[Falken]

The Prosecution (American Government) is desperate to appease the race card that was played in this case.

The rioting if he walks scott free will cost individuals, insurance, and the government hundreds of millions of dollars to repair.

Also, many more lives will be lost in the process of the rioting.

O.J. Simpson had less than 1% reasonable doubt for killing his wife and Goldman, and he walked easy as pie. And look where he is today.

GZ needs 99% reasonable doubt to survive street justice over the next decade, if they don't kill him in the first year of his release.

What is the core issue that is trumped by the race card is GZ isn't guilty of murder, but he is guilty of bad judgement.

Zimmerman's poor judgement isn't on trial, his motives are, and this is why he will walk.

But he will never see freedom for the rest of his life, and for this he will only have himself to blame.

Both these guys should have called the police and went straight home when they had the chance.

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
What is happening right now? Is the state and judge adding additional charges at the end of the trial for a different offense?


They are preparing the jury instructions. The instructions will ask is Zimmerman guilty of 2nd degree murder? Is Zimmerman guilty of felony murder? Is Zimmerman guilty of Aggravated assault with a firearm? Is Zimmerman guilty of child abuse?

Basically, the other offenses are called lesser included offenses and they will ask the jury if there is enough evidence to convict on one of these lower charges if they jury doesn't convict him of second degree murder.

 

[Philth]

Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
What is happening right now? Is the state and judge adding additional charges at the end of the trial for a different offense?


They are preparing the jury instructions. The instructions will ask is Zimmerman guilty of 2nd degree murder? Is Zimmerman guilty of felony murder? Is Zimmerman guilty of Aggravated assault with a firearm? Is Zimmerman guilty of child abuse?

Basically, the other offenses are called lesser included offenses and they will ask the jury if there is enough evidence to convict on one of these lower charges if they jury doesn't convict him of second degree murder.


All of those might not make the final instructions. Are being argued. Judge has yet to give decision.

 

[HerrStig]

If the marsupial judge looking for prompotion in this case felt the NEED to question Zimmerman on whether or not he would take the stand (over and over, BTW) she SHOULD have done it after sending the JURY OUT. Grounds for appeal +1.

 

[Philth]

Originally Posted By: HerrStig
If the marsupial judge looking for prompotion in this case felt the NEED to question Zimmerman on whether or not he would take the stand (over and over, BTW) she SHOULD have done it after sending the JURY OUT. Grounds for appeal +1.


Agreed. Now, to find another jury who hasn't seen or heard of the case.

 

[Win]

I've taken the time to watch or listen to probably 90% of the testimony.

I've practiced over twenty five years now.

Unless the 10% or so I've missed was devastating to the defense, this is the weakest murder case I've ever seen. It is an abuse of prosecutorial discretion to have brought it, imo.

Off the top of my head, all of the physical evidence corroborates the defendants version of events and only one of the eye witnesses (again IIRC) failed to corroborate the defendant's version of the events.

If I were the judge, I would have acquitted the defendant at the close of the prosecutions case. The presiding judge should have done just that, but is clearly biased against the defense, as most judges are.

All that said, juries are very unpredictable. The defendant should be acquitted, but anything is possible.

It's a shame EKPolk no longer posts; it would be interesting to get his perspective on this case.

 

[LeakySeals]

So the Govt knows Zimmy's innocent, but now on a witch hunt for anything that sticks?

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: Philth
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
If the marsupial judge looking for prompotion in this case felt the NEED to question Zimmerman on whether or not he would take the stand (over and over, BTW) she SHOULD have done it after sending the JURY OUT. Grounds for appeal +1.


Agreed. Now, to find another jury who hasn't seen or heard of the case.

Telling them "don't think about pink elephants" won't work.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: Win
I've taken the time to watch or listen to probably 90% of the testimony.

I've practiced over twenty five years now.

Unless the 10% or so I've missed was devastating to the defense, this is the weakest murder case I've ever seen. It is an abuse of prosecutorial discretion to have brought it, imo.

Off the top of my head, all of the physical evidence corroborates the defendants version of events and only one of the eye witnesses (again IIRC) failed to corroborate the defendant's version of the events.

If I were the judge, I would have acquitted the defendant at the close of the prosecutions case. The presiding judge should have done just that, but is clearly biased against the defense, as most judges are.

All that said, juries are very unpredictable. The defendant should be acquitted, but anything is possible.

It's a shame EKPolk no longer posts; it would be interesting to get his perspective on this case.
I agree.