Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Feed them hamsters faster Merk.
nah, just oil them better
Feed them hamsters faster Merk.
nah, just oil them better
YouTube thinks I have a slow connection
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Originally Posted By: raytseng
I think this is where you guys need to read up on net neutrality.
My understanding of net neutrality is that it is to prevent big money corporations from paying your ISP to give them preferred bandwidth and/ or to throttle those that do not pay... If anyone would be paying to have preferred bandwidth it would be YouTube.
The whole point is that if you are paying your ISP for $AGREED_SPEED that you are indeed receiving a service that provides $AGREED_SPEED regardless of the source of the traffic. (This does not and cannot, of course, compensate for slower speeds resulting from a slow server!)
true, but the big corporations get into fights. It goes both ways, it depends on which company believes has the upper hand. And if they're in the midst of renegotiation, anything can happen.
So for example, sure you may say youtube has plenty of bucks and can afford to pay comcast say $500k. Maybe everything is fine that year.
But then say, netflix comes around and says hey comcast I'm going to pay you $1M, then comcast might turn around back to youtube and say your deal's up, now you need to pay us $1.5M; until you do that then we're slowing you down. Then youtube says no way, go ahead slow us down, you're not worth it, we'll advertise that comcast company sucks and is purposesly slowing youtube on comcast, and folks will switch to verizon or att.
It's widely documented that all the huge bandwith users: youtube, bittorrent and netflix and amazon to some degree are packet shapped and potentially throttled/blocked either historically or currently.
It's especially the big businesses where there IS money and customer subscriptions on the line is where they can afford to play hardball and have random blocking and throttling of services.
Wasn't there even times where even like CBS got dropped by providers due to contract negotiations, where both sides tried to get the customers on their side by telling viewers call your cable company to get them to back down; and the cable company telling the viewers to call CBS to tell them to back down.
Meanwhile when a channel like G4 or UniversalSports gets dropped or added, nobody cares.
OR in this case, it might just be some router/switch/server at the OP's ISP is barfing and can't handle youtube and none of this was intentional or for business reasons.
Originally Posted By: raytseng
I think this is where you guys need to read up on net neutrality.
My understanding of net neutrality is that it is to prevent big money corporations from paying your ISP to give them preferred bandwidth and/ or to throttle those that do not pay... If anyone would be paying to have preferred bandwidth it would be YouTube.
The whole point is that if you are paying your ISP for $AGREED_SPEED that you are indeed receiving a service that provides $AGREED_SPEED regardless of the source of the traffic. (This does not and cannot, of course, compensate for slower speeds resulting from a slow server!)
true, but the big corporations get into fights. It goes both ways, it depends on which company believes has the upper hand. And if they're in the midst of renegotiation, anything can happen.
So for example, sure you may say youtube has plenty of bucks and can afford to pay comcast say $500k. Maybe everything is fine that year.
But then say, netflix comes around and says hey comcast I'm going to pay you $1M, then comcast might turn around back to youtube and say your deal's up, now you need to pay us $1.5M; until you do that then we're slowing you down. Then youtube says no way, go ahead slow us down, you're not worth it, we'll advertise that comcast company sucks and is purposesly slowing youtube on comcast, and folks will switch to verizon or att.
It's widely documented that all the huge bandwith users: youtube, bittorrent and netflix and amazon to some degree are packet shapped and potentially throttled/blocked either historically or currently.
It's especially the big businesses where there IS money and customer subscriptions on the line is where they can afford to play hardball and have random blocking and throttling of services.
Wasn't there even times where even like CBS got dropped by providers due to contract negotiations, where both sides tried to get the customers on their side by telling viewers call your cable company to get them to back down; and the cable company telling the viewers to call CBS to tell them to back down.
Meanwhile when a channel like G4 or UniversalSports gets dropped or added, nobody cares.
OR in this case, it might just be some router/switch/server at the OP's ISP is barfing and can't handle youtube and none of this was intentional or for business reasons.
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Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
It's loading my videos at 144p, but my connection speed is 7.60 Mbps DOWN and 1.46 Mbps UP.
It just started doing this tonight. Usually it always loads the video quickly at 720p.
Probably something temporary.
Umm, throttling streaming??? path to streaming servers?
while the ports on which you get the speed test are not...
Could be anyone of these including peering issues. Don't forget that a LOT of folks are shopping on line and that might be the cause of some of this too, overwhelming some servers.
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
It's loading my videos at 144p, but my connection speed is 7.60 Mbps DOWN and 1.46 Mbps UP.
It just started doing this tonight. Usually it always loads the video quickly at 720p.
Probably something temporary.
Umm, throttling streaming??? path to streaming servers?
while the ports on which you get the speed test are not...
Could be anyone of these including peering issues. Don't forget that a LOT of folks are shopping on line and that might be the cause of some of this too, overwhelming some servers.
I have 100 mbs Comcast and Youtube is also slow as molasses for me at times.
Well fellas, I called my ISP to complain. They ran some tests on the line and then they rebooted the modem remotely. Everything is back to normal. Apparently the modem needed rebooting.
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