Yes, the auto industry needs more money...

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What a surprise eh? It seems we're not done pouring money into the bottomless hole. But hey, I'm sure it'll be a big profit maker for the US taxpayer...
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Treasury-G...set=&ccode=

Treasury, GMAC in talks for 3rd round of US aid
Treasury says auto lender GMAC in talks for billions more in taxpayer funds to boost capital

* On 9:43 am EDT, Wednesday October 28, 2009

NEW YORK (AP) -- GMAC, the former lending arm of General Motors Co., is in talks with the Treasury Department for a third injection of taxpayer aid, a further sign of the U.S. government's entrenchment in the U.S. auto industry.

The Treasury Department mandated earlier this year that GMAC Financial Services raise an additional $11.5 billion in capital after undergoing a "stress test" along with 18 other banks. While other banks deemed undercapitalized have been able to raise funds from private investors, GMAC has been forced to go back to the government.

GMAC is a crucial player in the U.S. auto industry, providing wholesale financing to many General Motors and Chrysler dealerships to pay for the vehicles on their lots. The company also operates a mortgage lending unit -- Residential Capital -- which has been pummeled by the housing market downturn. It also runs an insurance unit and an online banking unit called Ally Bank.


So, when do we start getting those divident checks?
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The man in charge says there will be no more handouts.
I gotta see it to believe it, though.
 
GMAC is part of GM. Grandfather used to work for them, they got very good discounts on Gm cars. IMO GIVE THEM NOTHING!
 
Originally Posted By: jsharp
GMAC is a crucial player in the U.S. auto industry, providing wholesale financing to many General Motors and Chrysler dealerships to pay for the vehicles on their lots.


Really? I guess the private investors thought otherwise.
 
Large bank here (M&I) was told the same thing. They managed to sell new stock at about 20% of what it was trading for two years ago. I'm sure it pained them to do it, but it was the right thing to do.

I hope GMAC would do this, or liquidate themselves to other banks, like other financial instutions would do/have done.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't GMAC also involved in the real-estate "industry" both as a realtor and lender....the same real-estate industry that was "encouraged" by Uncle Sam to make loans to people who really weren't qualified to buy a car, never mind a house?

I feel the crackling from the political third-rail, so I'll back off now......
 
Originally Posted By: opus1
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't GMAC also involved in the real-estate "industry" both as a realtor and lender....the same real-estate industry that was "encouraged" by Uncle Sam to make loans to people who really weren't qualified to buy a car, never mind a house?

I feel the crackling from the political third-rail, so I'll back off now......


I think Ditech was the GMAC mortgage outfit.

Anyone know for certain?
 
They were definitely in the real estate business (saw their name on signs around here), also definitely mortgage lenders as well. Guess Uncle Sam needs to make sure that customers can finance their purchases from "his" company, I know when the credit markets locked up, GMAC couldn't finance anything.
 
it's time for the gov't to stand firm and tell GMAC to stand on there own 2 feet. imho (not worth even 2 cents) gm and chrysler didn't deserve a bail out and neither did the big banks.
 
GMAC purchased DiTech some years ago.

http://www.forbes.com/2003/07/17/cz_jm_0717gm.html

The House That GM Built
Joann Muller, 07.17.03, 7:08 AM ET

DETROIT - General Motors, the world's largest automaker, is perhaps more aptly described as a bank that happens to build automobiles. That was especially true in the second quarter of 2003, when analysts estimate as much as 90% of the automaker's profits came from its finance subsidiary, General Motors Acceptance Corp.


That short Forbes article is worth a read. Many quotes like this one -

There's no question that GM's core automotive profits are declining due to rising incentives, declining market share and enormous pension and health care costs. And it's probably true that GMAC's earnings have peaked.

Plus a bit of information that is very telling now that we're looking back...
 
Pretty sure gm no longer holds controlling shares in gmac. Aka they sold a big chunk of it off a while ago.
 
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Originally Posted By: wapacz
Pretty sure gm no longer holds controlling shares in gmac. Aka they sold a big chunk of it off a while ago.


THANK YOU! Everybody missed the first line in the article:

"GMAC, the former lending arm of General Motors Co."


GMAC and GM are no longer one and the same. Everybody is just in such a rush to be critical that they make themselves look foolish. Just look at the title of this post...
 
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Originally Posted By: HM12460
imho (not worth even 2 cents) gm and chrysler didn't deserve a bail out and neither did the big banks.

I agree with you. The market should have taken its course and worked things out naturally.

The auto workers here in the Motor City felt that the auto industry was more deserving of a bailout than the financial industry. After all, what makes a country great... strong banks or a strong manufacturing base? It was shameful that the financial industry got their bailout on a silver platter, yet the auto industry had to beg and grovel for the same thing.
 
GMAC was never really part of what is considered the 'auto industry' They were part of the finance industry. They are now known as Ally.
 
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