XADO Metal conditioner TURBO?

[adams355]

This one has popped up here and there. I think someone was using it on BITOG a while ago.

Metal conditioner TURBO | Automative chemistry Verylube

Metal conditioner for engine – for engine power increase, compression increase, oil consumption decrease, noise and vibration decrease, fuel consumption decrease

verylube.com

 

[kschachn]

Yes it’s been discussed several times before. Guess it’s due for another thread?

 

[kschachn]

I take that back and apologize, this particular one has not been discussed as far as I know.

What do you think of their website description?

 

[SuperSalad]

polyatomic molecule

Wow! How'd they crack that code?!

Fullerens have higher density and hardness than diamonds have

1.65 g/cm³ (C60 fullerene) vs 3.51 g/cm³ (diamond)

Lots of fun in there. Those were my favorites

 

[kschachn]

Wow! How'd they crack that code?!


1.65 g/cm³ (C60 fullerene) vs 3.51 g/cm³ (diamond)

Lots of fun in there. Those were my favorites

There was a lot of fun in that page. You don't even have to go much further than "metal conditioner".

 

[adams355]

I'm not yay or nay just see what you fellows think

Wear kinetics of contact surfaces with use of C60 fullerene additive to motor oil - Journal of Friction and Wear

It is shown that under nonstationary friction conditions, the wear resistance of contact surfaces increases when antifriction nanodisperse C60 fullerene is added to the ESSO SAE 10w40 motor oil. The effect is attributed to a polymerization diamondlike molecular layer arising on the...

link.springer.com

This is from a university study (below)

'Although fullerenes did not significantly change antifrictional properties of the base lubricant, they improve wear resistance of surfaces and have a strong advantage over already known antiwear additives such as graphite powder or dithiophosphoric acid zinc salts — fullerene are soluble in oil. This advantage is a result of fullerene ability to be dissolved in mineral oils'

 

[MolaKule]

...Due to wear compensation it allows realizing the concept of antiwear friction and in-place repair of units and mechanisms...

Here we go again with the physically impossible mechanical and tribological situations with some marketing jargon thrown in.

Run!

 

[adams355]

Here we go again with the physically impossible mechanical and tribological situations with some marketing jargon thrown in.

Run!

Yea well we know that doesn't happen, what about its anti wear properties MK?

 

[Silver]

Well it's "TURBO" so it has to be better than non-turbo right?

Was this product featured on an old episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

 

[SuperSalad]

Krang's latest diabolical scheme.

 

[Rygrego]

This one has popped up here and there. I think someone was using it on BITOG a while ago.

Metal conditioner TURBO | Automative chemistry Verylube

Metal conditioner for engine – for engine power increase, compression increase, oil consumption decrease, noise and vibration decrease, fuel consumption decrease

verylube.com

More SNAKE OIL.

 

[adams355]

More SNAKE OIL.

Yes, well this is the OTC and third party oil additives thread

 

[SuperSalad]

I still posit it should be converted to a sub-forum of the Humor forum.

 

[Rygrego]

Yes, well this is the OTC and third party oil additives thread

Well it didn't say it was for people who aren't smart enough to stay away from this kind of garbage.

 

[adams355]

No love for XADO... MK this isn't about your post, just to make sure

 

[MolaKule]

No love for XADO... MK this isn't about your post, just to make sure

There is tribological reality and there is Marketing hype, with the latter aimed at the young married guy who can least afford something he does not need or fully understand.

 

[adams355]

There is tribological reality and there is Marketing hype, with the latter aimed at the young married guy who can least afford something he does not need or fully understand.

I was more interested in the anti wear benefits of the fullerenes especially in comparison to and in combination with zinc etc as I have seen them in some oil and oil products before. I'm not going to use this product.

'Although fullerenes did not significantly change antifrictional properties of the base lubricant, they improve wear resistance of surfaces and have a strong advantage over already known antiwear additives such as graphite powder or dithiophosphoric acid zinc salts — fullerene are soluble in oil. This advantage is a result of fullerene ability to be dissolved in mineral oils'

http://archives.njit.edu/vol01/etd/2000s/2004/njit-etd2004-033/njit-etd2004-033.pdf

 

[MolaKule]

My view is that as much as fullerenes have been touted in the literature, the verdict is still out on their true efficacy.

 

[bruce381]

nano particles again?