What is the flap over range or charge speed all about? Any properly used, purpose built EV can easily get around an 18 hole golf cart several times no sweat.
Would you prefer range or super fast charging?
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There is potentially another issue - battery life degrades with each charge/discharge cycle. The more cycles you go thru the worse the battery gets.
I tried living with my parents ID.4 for a week recently while they were out of town. I think I'd prefer faster charging, putting it on a pay charger at work only got me about 26% battery and I was on the charger for over 3.5 hours. In fact most of the pay chargers were only charging about about 6-somethingKW. The Electrify America charger about 5 miles away could charge it in about 30 minutes according to my dad.
The range of the ID.4 completely full to under 10% was around 275 miles in practice, don't really need more as long as high amperage chargers are available. 400 miles is greater than the available range on my backside. 200-300 miles with really fast charging would be fine for me on a road trip.
Around town it wasn't really ever an issue. I work from home on average more than 4 days a week, even driving across town was fine, I just kept it on a 110 plug the whole time.
I'm ready to own one. I miss the power already. Delivery is not dependent on the RPMs that a motor is going, rather, merely by the position of my foot. I could care less about the various and sundry arguments that happen on every forum on the Internet. I want one because it's fast and fun. We'll keep 1 ICE car around for now.
The range of the ID.4 completely full to under 10% was around 275 miles in practice, don't really need more as long as high amperage chargers are available. 400 miles is greater than the available range on my backside. 200-300 miles with really fast charging would be fine for me on a road trip.
Around town it wasn't really ever an issue. I work from home on average more than 4 days a week, even driving across town was fine, I just kept it on a 110 plug the whole time.
I'm ready to own one. I miss the power already. Delivery is not dependent on the RPMs that a motor is going, rather, merely by the position of my foot. I could care less about the various and sundry arguments that happen on every forum on the Internet. I want one because it's fast and fun. We'll keep 1 ICE car around for now.
It's 2022, I don't have to choose.
See, that’s an unwieldy stop for me. I stop every couple of hours, for a variety of reasons, but having to wait 30 minutes during each those two or three stops in a typical six trip adds over an hour to the trip time. Not a price I’m willing to pay.
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The same range and time it takes to fill any of my ICE vehicles. Then have the battery and motor/motors last as long as my ICE engines and transmissions last me. 
Yesterday I drove from home to my North aircraft. 28 miles.
Then the spare to cover maintenance showed up early at the South aircraft. 87 miles.
Then while I was there, the West aircraft went out of service. Could I please remove the part from the South aircraft that's now in maintenance and put the West aircraft back in service. 108 miles.
On the way home, I get a call from North base because a scene light burned out. I stop to swap the bulb and head back home. 175 miles.
At no point would a stop to charge have been convenient or appropriate.
This happens to me randomly and frequently. And I need the ability to carry my tools and large and/or awkward parts.
Agreed. Not yet.
Both. Need 400 miles to a tank and be able to fully charge in 3-5 minutes just like any of my other vehicles. Essential for trips out west without having to stop too much or too long. That's what we have now, it's not really progress to backtrack on range or fill up time.
Never going to happen.
Lets say you need 100kwh to drive 400miles.
4 minutes is 0.07 of an hour.
100kwh/0.07 gives you a charge rate of 1667kw.
Lets assume a 400v 3 phase supply...
2404amps per phase!
Thats a monumental figure. HUGE amount of current.
And that's basic electrical theory you cannot get around.
Right. That's why EVs shouldn't be the sole option automakers offer. Anyone that thinks an EV, with known tech, can fully replace a gas vehicle is wrong. An EV would be an inconvenient step back for many people, including myself. If the powers want people to drive EVs, they need to match a gas vehicle for ease of use.
You don't have a company vehicle?
No way to charge at each location while working?
I personally stop every 2-2.5 hr for 15-20 minutes. As long as the 150 or 350kw fast charging infrastructure is available along my route, EV’s can theoretically work for me.
It takes longer than that to fill a gasoline vehicle. Fully charging isn't a viable option in any instance as beyond 80-85% charging tapers off. A more realistic ask would be 400 mile range and ability to recharge to 80% in 15-20 minutes. That's a 15-20 minutes stop every 300 miles, a sensible amount of up out of the vehicle moving around and helping circulation time anyway.
I do the San Jose to San Diego loop a couple of times a year. About 460 miles. Not gonna take one of those stupid EVs that catch fire every 20 minutes. Southwest $49 ticket for me, baby! More time for tacos!