Work from home Hollywood Squares

Forgive me for not giving a crap what a banker says.

I work in IT and 6 of the last 8 years of my life I worked fully remote. When I first started my career, I commuted 27 miles to the west side of LA. My average drive time was 1.2-1.5 hours each way, and that was me leaving at 5:45am going and around 2:30 returning. What were my alternatives? Move to the west side for double to triple my current rent? Take the train that goes nowhere? Working remote saves me 3 hours of my daily life that I am not being paid for and saves me having to pay the already outrageous gas prices in CA. If I didn't have ties to family here, I would've moved to a state with less taxes and been able to keep my remote position. My salary might have dropped by 10%, but my housing costs would have dropped by 50-70% with a higher quality of living. Retaining a high salary and reducing your cost of living to take that savings and investing it is the only way to generate wealth in today's world. Especially for someone like myself who is only an employee. Back before traffic was unbearable, the way was to commute into the cities and live in the suburbs.

Granted remote work is not for every field, but if you have good employees their productivity will not suffer. If anything, the constant contact-ability can burn out your employees. These bankers don't like this because their commercial real estate/VC capital urban apartment assets are going to crap since companies are downsizing their footprint and employees are moving to cheaper suburban areas. This trend isn't going to reverse no matter how hard Dimon cries. Why would I pay 5k a month rent to live around a city of homeless encampments? This city has turned into gotham city.
 
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JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon rips remote work and Zoom as ‘management by Hollywood Squares’ and says returning to the office will aid diversity.​


Dimon brings up some very strong points in the article on why working from home kills initiatives, productivity, and effective problem solving.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-rips-062715020.html
People solve problems whether or not they are face to face in an office. I took remote team leadership training last week. There are some new leadership skills that are useful but it comes down to hiring good people.

And why do companies feel a need to aid diversity? Hire the best people and diversity should work itself out. My company sent out an anonymous survey so that we could self-identify as gay or trans.. I told people we should all put down trans and make the management wonder who all the trans people are at work. LOL. They'd be like, I didn't know Leo was born a woman but I can see why he become one. He'd be one ugly woman.
 
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With good employees, management, and corporate structure, it doesn't matter whether employees are in the office or remote. SO long as the work gets done, is one really better than the other?

In my current employer, our overall productivity has gone up with work from home, yet old school top level management continues to state "we have to get back to the office". Why exactly?
 
Forgive me for not giving a crap what a banker says.

+1; OTOH, I enjoy the social aspect of the office and the casual interactions give me an idea of what other things are going on and how it might impact the work I am doing.

As an IT guy, I have been fully remote since Nov 2020, but travel in to check on some IT equipment that cannot be accessed remotely. Not a fan.

An interesting side story (i find) is my brother is an hourly worker for the airlines; he often schedules work shifts etc and gets coverage for shifts that are short handed; he does this at all times of the day.

One day he was checking his personal email on a work computer (via web browser) and supervision asked him if he was checking his personal email on company time

He responded "If I am not allowed to check my personal email on company time, I will not check my company email on personal time." Not one more word was said.

Certain companies don't want it "this way or that way" they want it "all ways"
 
And I should be clear - that is for employees whose job can be done from home. We certainly have a large portion of jobs that require physically being there... And that breeds its own interesting set of class type problems...
 
Wall Street executives complaining about "aid diversity" is the biggest joke of them all. People not able to afford living close to high income job is the biggest reason many people have to commute long distance or pick a less than ideal job. Taking that away and you pretty much disqualify a huge pool of potential employees who could do the job but wouldn't do it to avoid the commute.

The biggest reason they want WFH to stop is the collapsing commercial real estate market in many downtowns, and the reduction in oil demand for commuting.
 
+1; OTOH, I enjoy the social aspect of the office and the casual interactions give me an idea of what other things are going on and how it might impact the work I am doing.
I agree - before covid I would go in once or twice a week mainly for the social interaction with my close peers. The ironic thing is meetings would be held over Teams anyway...now my company is downsizing real estate and at 5 bucks gallon I pass.
 
The one place working from home works really well is if you work for the Gov't. Not only do they not care what you do, nobody is authorized to fire you if you DON'T do it.

Anyway, try loading a barge of gasoline from home. Only 1,007,000 gallons, who cares if you spill a little in the water?
Point being, it depends on the job and the employer. If I were paying a wage, I would get to say where you show up to work.
 
If I were paying a wage, I would get to say where you show up to work.
2 way street, my wife's company is failing and now she is looking for a new job. Her choice is either local in person or remote for a big company. You can do whatever you want to force her to commute 3 hrs a day on site, she's not going to work for you. BTW she is willing to take a paycut doing that too.
 
2 way street, my wife's company is failing and now she is looking for a new job. Her choice is either local in person or remote for a big company. You can do whatever you want to force her to commute 3 hrs a day on site, she's not going to work for you. BTW she is willing to take a paycut doing that too.
100%. The job market is tight as it is, so employers have to accommodate especially in certain occupations. Dimon is blowing smoke. I would never go back to commuting 3 hrs a day and many more like me feel the same.
 
I've been working from home full time for 20+ years. It's a win-win for both my employer and myself. I'm logged on by 6:00AM pretty much every day and usually work until 4:00PM Monday through Friday. I don't have to spend two hours commuting per day and my employer gets more productive hours. If I want to do something else for an hour during the day, like change the oil in my Durango, then I do it. There is virtually no reason for me to go to an office, what would I do there that I can't do from home? If I want to talk to one of my coworkers about a design, then I hit them on Teams video chat and we go over the design. If I want to talk to a customer, I call them on Teams video chat and we chat, or I just call them on the phone (how boring). Everyone wins.
 
2 way street, my wife's company is failing and now she is looking for a new job. Her choice is either local in person or remote for a big company. You can do whatever you want to force her to commute 3 hrs a day on site, she's not going to work for you. BTW she is willing to take a paycut doing that too.
You can hire good people that want to work remote or settle for people that are willing to come into the office. The talent pool expands greatly when the geographical location doesn't matter.
 
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