Without a doubt, the best oil for the money is....

[1sttruck]

"Edited by wwillson (05/11/08 06:13 PM)"

What's with the removal of the link ? It was a comparison of oils, something that we don't get often around here. Instead we're left with choices based on fashion, babbling on and on about why we like or don't like something. If the link was only promoting Amsoil then it's removal would be advertising, and even if the tests being shown have been selected to hilight the advantages of a product it's still a comparison.

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: 1sttruck
"Edited by wwillson (05/11/08 06:13 PM)"

What's with the removal of the link ? It was a comparison of oils, something that we don't get often around here. Instead we're left with choices based on fashion, babbling on and on about why we like or don't like something. If the link was only promoting Amsoil then it's removal would be advertising, and even if the tests being shown have been selected to hilight the advantages of a product it's still a comparison.


Dude - cool down. Click on the link in my post right below yours. That guy is an Amsoil dealer, it's not the official Amsoil site, and HE is not a BITOG sponsor.

 

[mazduh30]

I like Amsoil products. Most of my vehicles I can do the once a year oil change.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: 1sttruck
"Edited by wwillson (05/11/08 06:13 PM)"

What's with the removal of the link ? It was a comparison of oils, something that we don't get often around here. Instead we're left with choices based on fashion, babbling on and on about why we like or don't like something. If the link was only promoting Amsoil then it's removal would be advertising, and even if the tests being shown have been selected to hilight the advantages of a product it's still a comparison.


I agree with you -it was real data rather than babbling. However it was not the content in question. However you must realize that this happens all the time. MANY sites have a hidden link that effectively couples your computer to a specific Amsoil dealer. Since we have paying amsoil dealers on here - site sponsors, it is unfair that other dealers get what is for all intents and purposes, free advertising.

As you can see, Pablo updated the link. Since he is a site sponsor, he (as is Gary Allan, being a sponsor as well) can put links in.

Since they are the folks who pay to keep this a free site available to all, they get first dibs at commissions on sales, not someone else from the internet.

No offense was intended, there was nothing wrong with your post/link other than the association to a non-sponsor dealer.

Best,

JMH

 

[Steve S]

I would have to say that you just proved to me that Amsoil is the best.

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: digitalSniperX1
Pennzoil Platium. It seems to meet almost all PC standards and they're not afraid to print it on the bottle.

The SSO-0w30 from Amsoil doesn't have a clear HT0-06 standard designation on the bottle and it's 10 bucks for a quart. Huh?

(DFLMIJTTSTP)


No, it is Chevron Supreme and Formula Shell for 49c after rebates. 99c after rebate PP is good too but it is not a regular sale, and I don't think it can last 2x as long as CS or FS.

 

[1sttruck]

"As you can see, Pablo updated the link. Since he is a site sponsor, he (as is Gary Allan, being a sponsor as well) can put links in."

Thanks for explaining it (really !), but it was more fun babbling on about .... :^)

 

[digitalSniperX1]

Ok, I won't post in this thread again. Referencing a well respected publication is not 'childish'. Personal experience matters little in a discussion where compiled statistics are available.

I will mention the fact that Mercedes admits they have serious quality issues and are trying to address the issues. Their quality issues come from them, and CU statistics confirm them, as well as JD Power.


I'm not sure how any of this applies to the discussion. However, in Mercedes and Honda are in two different leagues with respect to reliability...Honda being the pro.

So if any manufacturer referenced in this discussion have shown weakness, then it would be them.

I found this article in all of 30 seconds.

http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/030602.html

The quality issues are in fact historical (referencing article discussing model years 2001-2005) collecting data from cars over time. Those quality issues referenced continued in 2006 and they are addressing a major problem they know they have.

So if referencing CU is childish, I'm not sure what referencing Mercedes theirselves is.

 

[JAG]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Anyway, again, enough childish citing of CR numbers.
JMH
That comment is worth you reading to see if you really wanted to sound like that kind of person. It certainly lacks validity but the question is whether the soft insult was justified. I don't think so.

 

[strombony]

YB Pennzoil. Why? Because most people using synthetic don't really need it. It's also a grp II+ and likely on par or better than Motorcraft. Countless UOA's show this stuff will go the distance of 4-5k. And I don't believe in extending drain intervals beyond 5k; hence, why bother with syn unless you drive a semi truck, or you trade you car off to the next unsuspecting bloke, they won't now you prefered 5-10k OCI's, sludge doesn't necessarily cause an engine to malfunction, I just don't want that c.r.a.p. in mine. I've spoke to many people who have proven time again that a UOA can show great wear numbers and lead you to believe you are running clean when in fact there is sludge.

If I had to chose between purchasing a vehicle from someone like myself that maintained their OCI's around 3-5k and someone who extended 5-10K, I'd purchase the veh which had shorter OCI's, and I'd be willing to bet most anyone with common sense would.

 

[Cooper]

I would much rather purchase a vehicle that has been run at 10K OCI's with Amsoil products. I believe that anyone who told me that they had run Amsoil in a vehicle probably took pretty good care of all the maintainance. I also believe conventional is okay if the rest of the car is maintained as well, and not a sludge monster. A lot of Toyota sludge factories would not be that way if they used Amsoil instead of bulk conventional.

 

[Gary Allan]

The best oil for the money is the one that produces the highest avoided cost per mile and cost the least per mile to use after factoring your time involved with changing oil and disposal of the leftovers. Naturally, the oil must work in your car. If you've got some teutonic engineering puzzle, then your choices may be limited, but for your typical user (yeah ..yeah, you all think you're special ..and so was your education

) I think it breaks down to $/mile (again with ancillary costs accounted for).