With respect

[PandaBear]

Why is my thread with link to a news article about warehouse temp worker through 4 layers of contracting from retailers, paid in piece rate, deleted?

I know there is some run in between a mod (JHZR2) in a few of the previous threads (the metal scraping, the hotel homicide turn English / Illegal) but I do not believe BITOG mods would retaliate with these petty delete / block.

So, why, my thread / post is deleted? I assume it is not about illegal (since it is not), not about sex or gore, or about profanity.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear

but I do not believe BITOG mods would retaliate with these petty delete / block.




I do; it's happened a few times. Give a man power (even if it's moderating an oil message board) and he'll use it.

 

[Lead Shoes]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: PandaBear

but I do not believe BITOG mods would retaliate with these petty delete / block.




I do; it's happened a few times. Give a man power (even if it's moderating an oil message board) and he'll use it.

I know they are just doing their duty, but some of the stuff they delete posts and block you for is just dumb...

Watch one of them will say if you don't like the rules, leave...

 

[Carbon]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear
So, why, my thread / post is deleted? I assume it is not about illegal (since it is not), not about sex or gore, or about profanity.
So why would you post such stuff in the first place?

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: Carbon
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
So, why, my thread / post is deleted? I assume it is not about illegal (since it is not), not about sex or gore, or about profanity.
So why would you post such stuff in the first place?


Because it is new information that most people (including me) did not know about:

warehouse work has shift from permanent employee based to temp agency with multiple layers, staff paid by containers rather than hours which leads to sometimes below minimum wages without workers comp, etc.

I do not think any part of it has anything to do with politics.



My humor posts bordering sex / gore / profanity seems to be staying strong though.

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: Brenden
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: PandaBear

but I do not believe BITOG mods would retaliate with these petty delete / block.




I do; it's happened a few times. Give a man power (even if it's moderating an oil message board) and he'll use it.

I know they are just doing their duty, but some of the stuff they delete posts and block you for is just dumb...

Watch one of them will say if you don't like the rules, leave...

Despite our differences and to be polite, I like to give people the benefit of doubt.

 

[wwillson]

Folks, there is no conspiracy. The mod that moved the thread might not have had enough time to read the whole article at the link, instead moved it to quarantine with the intent of reading it later and making a more informed decision then.

I just read the entire article, which none of the content is against our rules here. I put the thread back into "general & off topic" for everyone to see. However, I'll bet that we will have to lock it within the hour because of political discussion.

I wish everyone would appreciate the amount of time it takes to moderate BITOG.

Wayne

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: wwillson
Folks, there is no conspiracy. The mod that moved the thread might not have had enough time to read the whole article at the link, instead moved it to quarantine with the intent of reading it later and making a more informed decision then.

I just read the entire article, which none of the content is against our rules here. I put the thread back into "general & off topic" for everyone to see. However, I'll bet that we will have to lock it within the hour because of political discussion.

I wish everyone would appreciate the amount of time it takes to moderate BITOG.

Wayne


Thank you very much.

 

[JimPghPA]

At least there is still the freedom to comment about it here on BITOG.

 

[cchase]

From what I've seen, some topics are "hot button" enough that even if the original topic is clean, the mods know from experience that it will soon turn ugly.

Take any thread about GM and money, any thread about the economic situation in this country, add a few of the "regular offenders" and voila! Politics.

Just for quick examples I see time and time again. Heck, a thread about "Chevy celebrates 100 years" a month or so ago quickly turned political because some people just can't resist adding their unwanted 2 cents.

Then there are the numerous threads that start off with something inherently but not overtly political, and the OP mentions "let's not turn it political" as though that makes a difference to the people who just have to get it out.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: wwillson
Folks, there is no conspiracy. The mod that moved the thread might not have had enough time to read the whole article at the link, instead moved it to quarantine with the intent of reading it later and making a more informed decision then.

I just read the entire article, which none of the content is against our rules here. I put the thread back into "general & off topic" for everyone to see. However, I'll bet that we will have to lock it within the hour because of political discussion.

I wish everyone would appreciate the amount of time it takes to moderate BITOG.

Wayne


Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Hokiefyd]

I am not a BITOG moderator, but I have moderated other vehicle-specific internet forums before, and as Wayne said, it takes an incredible amount of time and patience to do so effectively. It's easy to run a forum that is completely free-for-all with no moderation at all, and it's easy to run a forum with such tight censorship that hardly anything gets posted. But to run and host an internet forum with almost 40,000 members, and to specifically allow off-topic conversation within limits, brings with it big potential for things to get out of control. Frankly, the amount of off-topic discussion allowed on this board is above and beyond what most other topic-specific forums allow anyway.

BITOG is a very unique place where folks from every single walk of life come, and we converse in relative peace. You have thick and thin oil folks, Ford and Chevy folks, Honda and Toyota folks, republicans and democrats, pro-union and anti-union folks, and most certainly folks of nearly every race and color. And yet we collectively enjoy such a wide diversity of conversation that, for the most part, stays respectful and considerate.

For that, I believe the moderation panel of this board deserves a huge THANK YOU.

 

[2oldtommy]

+1 and Amen! As a member of another vehicle specific forum, I find that I spend 95% of my time here. Thank you moderators for a tough job well done! FWIW--Oldtommy

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: wwillson

I wish everyone would appreciate the amount of time it takes to moderate BITOG.

Wayne


That is a very valid point. I have modded on other forums over the years( auto and waterfowl hunting )and still do on a few. Some are small and they are easy but others are very large and busy, like this place, and it can be difficult keeping up with it.

The best way to deal with that however is to assign a mod or two to each forum or at least only give them say 2-3 tops. I don't see many mod's here at BITOG and that may be part of the issue. Too many forums for too few Mod's. Maybe you need to get a few more guys to do it and only give them a few forums to cover. Easier on them that way and a bonus is you catch stuff faster that way vs a small group having to keep an eye on every forum.

Just a thought.

 

[Vikas]

I know that the economic cost of the Iraq war thread has suddenly disappeared. It was there until Sunday morning but now there is no trace of it. The last time I read it, it had not completely degenerated it in to a flame fest but it was getting there. I would have thought it would have gotten locked but did not really expect it to vanish. I did not get PM or any reprimand and I do not believe I had done anything to disobey the rules/guideline.

 

[mcrn]

Originally Posted By: wwillson
Folks, there is no conspiracy. The mod that moved the thread might not have had enough time to read the whole article at the link, instead moved it to quarantine with the intent of reading it later and making a more informed decision then.

I just read the entire article, which none of the content is against our rules here. I put the thread back into "general & off topic" for everyone to see. However, I'll bet that we will have to lock it within the hour because of political discussion.

I cant imagine how much time it takes and I don't know if this was done or not but a simple PM to the OP of the once removed topic should have prevented this thread from happening.

I wish everyone would appreciate the amount of time it takes to moderate BITOG.

Wayne

 

[andyd]

Yah ,when my stuff doesn't get posted , I assume I fat fingered something, because I'm not computer savvy. My meds are good that way. If my posts are being moderated, no biggy. It is not my sandbox. Maybe it is wrong to be so complacent, but I treat my forums as the 21st century equivalent of the stove at the Marshfield Centre Garage in my youth. You had to mind your manners there too. It is the solstice, everybody is edgy. Let it go.

I just checked the other thread I replied to. My post wasnt there, I figured that maybe it hadn't passed muster. Nope, fat fingered the send. I was able to back arrow and re-send. Doh!

 

[chubbs1]

To go back to what wwilson stated and Hokiefyd alluded to about the difficulty of moderating, I must agree that the BITOG staff does a great job. Just go to other boards and check them out and some of the ridiculous comments and discussions will make your head nearly explode. I have had threads locked and been reprimanded but it has always been fair and I usually get the courtesy of an explanation at times. I enjoy BITOG and look forward it being here for a long time.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I know there is some run in between a mod (JHZR2) in a few of the previous threads (the metal scraping, the hotel homicide turn English / Illegal) but I do not believe BITOG mods would retaliate with these petty delete / block.


Though we disagree in that thread, I have not touched any of your posts in recent memory. I also do not "moderate" threads that I am actively engaged in, unless it is something like answering a question where amongst the threads there is blatant foul language or something.

I trust that you were not implying that given our "conversation" in the other thread, that I'd be playing games in other areas.

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I trust that you were not implying that given our "conversation" in the other thread, that I'd be playing games in other areas.


Of course I'm not. Usually if I'm accusing the mod of something I'd PM them. I though there might be one or two point in the post that I've missed that cause it to be deleted.

Once upon a time a video (alien vs predator) I posted was removed, not because of some "political" topic most people would have though, but because a "nudity" shot in 1:13 that no one would have paid attention to.